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A Question regarding Swift Actions...
« on: June 25, 2009, 06:41:18 PM »
We recently had a debate in our gaming group, and currently are in the middle of the session, but...

Similar to how a Standard Action can become a move action, can a Move Action become a Swift action, so someone can perform 2 swift actions and 1 standard?

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Re: A Question regarding Swift Actions...
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2009, 06:51:18 PM »
according to the SRD no you can't convert anything to a swift action. More specifically it doesn't say you can but doesn't say you can't either.

While i think you could convert a move action to a swift action, it wouldn't do you any good as you can only take 1 swift action a round.
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Re: A Question regarding Swift Actions...
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2009, 07:22:16 PM »

  Nope. Swift actions are a precious commodity (quickened spells).

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Re: A Question regarding Swift Actions...
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2009, 08:25:06 PM »
I've houseruled that standard actions can be used in the place of swift actions, but it isn't official.
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Re: A Question regarding Swift Actions...
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2009, 08:29:41 PM »
I thought Quickened Spells where a free action only usable once per turn?
There's an obvious errata/update around that I'm not aware of? (quite plausible).
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Re: A Question regarding Swift Actions...
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2009, 08:43:47 PM »
I thought Quickened Spells where a free action only usable once per turn?
There's an obvious errata/update around that I'm not aware of? (quite plausible).

That was the definition prior to the invention of the swift action. Now, it has been clarified (in multiple sources - spell compendium should be the latest) that casting a quickened spell is a swift action.
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Re: A Question regarding Swift Actions...
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2009, 08:47:13 PM »
Thanks. How on earth did I miss that?
Ah well, no harm done, I haven't made that misstake in any actual game yet.
Could have something to do with me never having played above level 6...
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Re: A Question regarding Swift Actions...
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2009, 05:09:51 AM »
I thought Quickened Spells where a free action only usable once per turn?
There's an obvious errata/update around that I'm not aware of? (quite plausible).

That was the definition prior to the invention of the swift action. Now, it has been clarified (in multiple sources - spell compendium should be the latest) that casting a quickened spell is a swift action.

It's worth noting though that you're still limited to 1 Quickened Spell/turn no matter how many swift actions you have (save for Multispell which specifically overcomes this limitation, but that's an epic feat). Of course, this isn't the case with Arcane Spellsurge (which pretty much confirms that by RAW, no conversion can't happen, although allowing Standard > Swift conversion is no problem), but it does mean allowing Move > Swift conversion is no problem in a Core-environment (allows spell trigger activations, and immediate action followed by spell+quickened spell next turn, and that's about it).
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