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Cleric crafter suggestions?
« on: May 04, 2009, 05:10:15 PM »
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I took Artifice and Wardomains. I'm 3rd level currently. I took craft wonderous item. We did a 32 pt buy.
I can redo my first lvl feats (this is mostly what I need help with) I'm going to take 3 level's of wizard and then go mystic thuerge I think. I'd like to start pumping out golems and maybe make myself a viable dmg dealer. I'm thinking
1 ? ?
3 craft wonderous
5 magic arms and armor
9 craft construct
after that I'm confused.
I've played a cleric a couple times but never an arcane caster and we never got higher then 12. The campaign is supposed to run to 20. I'm open to suggestions mostly on feat and any play style's that will let me shine. My char doesn't have to be uber, I just wanna shine at crafting and maybe my golems. I'm in a large party (8 with 2 clerics, 1 paladin, 2 bards, Me, 1 sword sage, and a warmage). So far we've been steam rolling things.

Ty for any suggestions Just I'm kinda learning things too late to be of any use to my char. Such as OMG I should of taken that at 1st lvl isntead of now type things.

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Re: Cleric crafter suggestions?
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2009, 05:56:42 PM »
For actual crafting use the spell unseen crafter from races of eberron. Its a level 2 spell that effectively crafts for you 1 day/caster level and allows you to use wisdom instead of intelligence for the craft check.
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Re: Cleric crafter suggestions?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2009, 12:21:42 PM »
I didn't know it was wis based, that is awesome. ty for the suggestion.

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Re: Cleric crafter suggestions?
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2009, 08:03:19 PM »
For actual crafting use the spell unseen crafter from races of eberron. Its a level 2 spell that effectively crafts for you 1 day/caster level and allows you to use wisdom instead of intelligence for the craft check.
Does this work for crafting magic items, like the Dedicated Wright? Or just mundane stuff?
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Re: Cleric crafter suggestions?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 08:13:33 PM »
Take a two-level dip in the chameleon PrC.  The floating bonus feat can be changed out each day, perfect for picking up any crafting feat you need in downtime, and serving as something useful in uptime.


Your first level feat needs to be able learner, but that's a small price to pay for the ability to craft anything you want.

The skills might be a bit of a speedbump for you, but even rogue1 chameleon2 is pretty much strictly better than three levels of wizard.

Multiclassing into effigy master (complete arcane) is also a possible option.  The power of the effigies you make can be easily scaled to whatever is balanced for your campaign, depending on how much you use templates.
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Re: Cleric crafter suggestions?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2009, 10:19:47 PM »
Take a two-level dip in the chameleon PrC.  The floating bonus feat can be changed out each day, perfect for picking up any crafting feat you need in downtime, and serving as something useful in uptime.


Your first level feat needs to be able learner, but that's a small price to pay for the ability to craft anything you want.

The skills might be a bit of a speedbump for you, but even rogue1 chameleon2 is pretty much strictly better than three levels of wizard.

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Can you alter your domains? Trickery gives the skills for Chameleon.

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Re: Cleric crafter suggestions?
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 12:03:38 PM »
k Here is new build

Cleric 1
Wizard 1 (Some variant, was going to go sorcer stalwart variant but I won't get 9th lvl spells.)
Human Paragon 2?
(use versatile / heighten) Mystic thuerge 1
Chameleon 2
Mystic thuerge rest.

Domains Artifice and Trickery
I'll take craft wonderous and craft magic arms and armor, then use floating feat to either take Magical artisan feats or craft construct later. :) ty for the help guys I'll take comments if you see a way to improve it?

Ok this will give me 9th spells in both correct?
Can use the Weapon focus thing from Cham to get martial weap proficiency
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Re: Cleric crafter suggestions?
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 12:59:46 PM »
For actual crafting use the spell unseen crafter from races of eberron. Its a level 2 spell that effectively crafts for you 1 day/caster level and allows you to use wisdom instead of intelligence for the craft check.
Does this work for crafting magic items, like the Dedicated Wright? Or just mundane stuff?

The spell states that the unseen crafter can be assigned any one task that can be accomplished with the craft skill. I'm unfamiliar with crafting magic items, so am unsure if you need to make craft checks when making them. if I remember correctly though you do need to make craft checks to make golems.

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Re: Cleric crafter suggestions?
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 01:15:14 PM »
Unseen crafter is unable to cast spells so, just mundane things. I just tell the dm that me and 2 of those spells are working at the same time so he lets me have a time reduction in making things.

Basically invis helper is hammering breast plate roughing it out, and I step in to finish it with spells or what not.
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Re: Cleric crafter suggestions?
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 01:57:35 PM »
k Here is new build

Cleric 1
Wizard 1 (Some variant, was going to go sorcer stalwart variant but I won't get 9th lvl spells.)
Human Paragon 2?
(use versatile / heighten) Mystic thuerge 1
Chameleon 2
Mystic thuerge rest.

Domains Artifice and Trickery
I'll take craft wonderous and craft magic arms and armor, then use floating feat to either take Magical artisan feats or craft construct later. :) ty for the help guys I'll take comments if you see a way to improve it?

Ok this will give me 9th spells in both correct?
Can use the Weapon focus thing from Cham to get martial weap proficiency

You don't get 9th Level Spells in any of your classes:
- Cleric & Wizard 1 -> no spellcasting advancement for the other class
- Human Paragon 1 -> no spellcasting advancement
- Chameleon -> 2 more levels of "no spellcasting advancement"(for Cleric or Wizard)
- MT only has 10 Levels(pre epic)

BTW: Neither of your classes can make use of Versatile Spellcaster.
Hint: Just look up the Mystic Theurge Handbook ;)

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Re: Cleric crafter suggestions?
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 02:44:09 PM »
Slaps Face duh, ok Iunno what I was thinking.