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Healing yourself as an undead
« on: April 19, 2009, 07:17:33 PM »
So, I have wizard who might be joining the game as a lich. Of course, the party clerics would be useless. They have little reason to prepare inflict spells when there is only one undead in a group of six. It will be largely up to me to heal myself , and since I don't get back hit points regularly at night it will have to be through magic.

So far, my base idea is Energy Substitution [Cold] + Lord of the Uttercold. Gaining half damage back on damaging spells is a good way to do this, but then I'm also not a blasting wizard so losing a few prepared slots to cold/negative spells and two feats seems less than optimal

I thought about getting around this by just not banning necromancy as a school, but then necromancy has so few spells that actually do negative damage anyway (which is peculiar from popular belief) and because the next school to give up would be abjuration; which just isn't happening.

What other ways are there to heal yourself with negative energy?
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 07:30:58 PM »
Play a dread necromancer (Heroes of Horror, at-will negative energy touch) or a sorcerer with the white dragonspawn template (Dragonlance, grants immunity to cold and advances sorcerer casting)
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 07:36:32 PM »
black sand in da pants.

thats right, poor that sand into your underwear. fill your boots with it.

hell, if you swallowed it, it would stay in contact with you forever. undead don't poop, now do they?

fast healing 1d6 should cover most of your needs. failing that, chuck some wands of inflict towards the cleric.
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2009, 08:27:34 PM »
Just touch yourself.  :smirk
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2009, 08:50:05 PM »
Oh yeah. Liches have a negative energy touch attack too.
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2009, 09:11:04 PM »
como move! touching-oneself-while-pouring-sand-in-underwear!
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2009, 09:34:59 PM »
If only this character were female, we'd finally have optimized having sand in one's vagina.
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2009, 10:03:07 PM »
...Are we creating a Rule 34 of optimization?
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2009, 10:05:06 PM »
If it exists, there is porn optimization of it?
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2009, 10:26:05 PM »
My name is Alastar, and i approve this thread.
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2009, 10:30:16 PM »
Quote from: Alastar on April 19, 2009, 10:26:05 PM
I approve this thread.

Plus fucking one.

On-topic.... there are some wizard spells that could help with that, I guess...
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2009, 10:36:51 PM »
Make sure whatever trick you use is approved by your DM before you start.  I had a DM that argued rather vehematly that negative energy descriptor effects do not explicitly heal undead unless it actually says they do (as inflict spells do). 
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2009, 10:39:01 PM »
I can see where that ruling would come from, given the wording on the subtype (negative energy spells can heal undead, but they don't have to). It's a matter of interpretation, I suppose...
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2009, 04:35:37 AM »
Quote from: Bozwevial on April 19, 2009, 09:34:59 PM
If only this character were female, we'd finally have optimized having sand in one's vagina.
There is no way this isn't the best way to do things.
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 07:25:53 AM »
Quote from: Bozwevial on April 19, 2009, 10:05:06 PM
If it exists, there is porn optimization of it?
Someone has to start a thread of "rules of D&D" with that as #34 :p
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2009, 08:02:52 AM »
Necrosis Carnexes (MMIV, IIRC?) are another nice undead healing method.

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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2009, 11:11:33 AM »
lesser vigor heals undeads too, it grants fast healing, it does not channel positive energy.

Get some wands of lesser vigor and hand them to the cleric for some healing.
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2009, 11:57:31 AM »
Wow. just wow.
Porn of it.
Optimization of it.
Funny.
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2009, 11:59:27 AM »
Wuh-Oh-Oh, I don't want anybody else, whenever you hit me I touch myself, wuh-oh-oh...
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Re: Healing yourself as an undead
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2009, 12:15:10 PM »
Well, filling my breeches with black sand and touching myself at night are great ways to heal myself outside of combat, so that is covered. Though, the excerpt on the lich's touch attack specifically applies it's negative damage to living creatures, a nit-picking DM might argue with that.

The next problem would be healing myself in combat if I really need to. Short of a cleric casting harm on me, I have few ways to heal large amounts in short term bursts.
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