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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #80 on: April 14, 2009, 06:09:21 PM »
Quote from: Kuroimaken on April 14, 2009, 05:57:09 PM
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Favorite badly-written rule?
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As DM you have final say on all rulings or outcomes in any given situation.
It's so open end and can lend to many "interpretation" issues. It's not clearly defined in the SRD OR Rules Comp, not to mention the RAI is completely vague, and only one person at the table is able to use this. Sounds exploitable to me.

I mean come on... what were the designers thinking when they came up with this one.

The sad thing is, I'm having trouble keeping my DM to exploit that one.
I'm reasonably sure you mean 'from exploiting'; as written, you're having trouble making your DM exploit the 'final say' rule.
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #81 on: April 14, 2009, 06:44:54 PM »
Quote from: InnaBinder on April 14, 2009, 06:09:21 PM
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Favorite badly-written rule?
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As DM you have final say on all rulings or outcomes in any given situation.
It's so open end and can lend to many "interpretation" issues. It's not clearly defined in the SRD OR Rules Comp, not to mention the RAI is completely vague, and only one person at the table is able to use this. Sounds exploitable to me.

I mean come on... what were the designers thinking when they came up with this one.

The sad thing is, I'm having trouble keeping my DM to exploit that one.
I'm reasonably sure you mean 'from exploiting'; as written, you're having trouble making your DM exploit the 'final say' rule.

That is correct. Silly typoing.
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #82 on: April 14, 2009, 06:51:03 PM »
 :D I rather liked the irony.
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #83 on: April 14, 2009, 07:18:54 PM »
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:D I rather liked the irony.

I also need to teach my other DM that running a game is not about masturbatory ego trips.
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #84 on: April 14, 2009, 08:13:14 PM »
Quote from: Kuroimaken on April 14, 2009, 07:18:54 PM
Quote from: InnaBinder on April 14, 2009, 06:51:03 PM
:D I rather liked the irony.

I also need to teach my other DM that running a game is not about masturbatory ego trips.

Run one and show him?
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #85 on: April 14, 2009, 08:43:55 PM »
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Quote from: Kuroimaken on April 14, 2009, 07:18:54 PM
Quote from: InnaBinder on April 14, 2009, 06:51:03 PM
:D I rather liked the irony.

I also need to teach my other DM that running a game is not about masturbatory ego trips.

Run one and show him?

I'm actually trying to put one together.

Won't be easy though. The guys are AFRAID of what happens when I DM.
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #86 on: April 14, 2009, 08:49:38 PM »
Why would that be?
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #87 on: April 14, 2009, 08:55:15 PM »
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #88 on: April 14, 2009, 09:11:42 PM »
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #89 on: April 14, 2009, 09:20:08 PM »
There is a Character Trait named Relentless that gives you some Constitution bonuses. As a drawback, it states that if something makes you Fatigued, you become Exhausted instead. The Tireless feat states that you're immune to Exhaustion, and something that if you get Exhausted you're Fatigued instead. That makes anyone immune to Fatigue Effects... or... it makes you mind explode (paradox). xD
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #90 on: April 14, 2009, 09:45:20 PM »
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Bayar! Get over to the PbP forum now! :P
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #92 on: April 14, 2009, 09:59:51 PM »
Quote from: Generic_PC on April 14, 2009, 08:49:38 PM
Why would that be?

Well, quite a few years back I mentally scarred two players. To this day they mention how afraid they are of "paragon kappa flayers".
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #93 on: April 14, 2009, 10:57:15 PM »
Quote from: Pyrefox on April 14, 2009, 09:20:08 PM
There is a Character Trait named Relentless that gives you some Constitution bonuses. As a drawback, it states that if something makes you Fatigued, you become Exhausted instead. The Tireless feat states that you're immune to Exhaustion, and something that if you get Exhausted you're Fatigued instead. That makes anyone immune to Fatigue Effects... or... it makes you mind explode (paradox). xD

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normally cause you to become fatigued

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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #94 on: April 16, 2009, 12:58:35 PM »
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Chill touch.  can't tell you how many dumb arguments over that i've heard.  To add insult to injury, the somewhat similar Umbral Touch does make it clear how it works... and they never errata'd Chill touch to comply with this superior standard of clarity.
In which book would I find Umbral Touch....?
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #95 on: April 16, 2009, 01:21:02 PM »
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In which book would I find Umbral Touch....?
Sounds like a Mystery from Tome of Magic.
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #96 on: April 16, 2009, 01:31:56 PM »
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In which book would I find Umbral Touch....?
Sounds like a Mystery from Tome of Magic.
Drat.  I don't have that one.
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #97 on: April 16, 2009, 02:21:02 PM »
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In which book would I find Umbral Touch....?
Sounds like a Mystery from Tome of Magic.
Confirmed.  3rd level (apprentice)/Conjuration.  5d6 damage on touch attack, target must make a Fort save or be slowed.
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #98 on: April 16, 2009, 04:09:42 PM »
Quote from: InnaBinder on April 16, 2009, 02:21:02 PM
Quote from: Zombieboots on April 16, 2009, 01:21:02 PM
Quote from: ksbsnowowl on April 16, 2009, 12:58:35 PM
In which book would I find Umbral Touch....?
Sounds like a Mystery from Tome of Magic.
Confirmed.  3rd level (apprentice)/Conjuration.  5d6 damage on touch attack, target must make a Fort save or be slowed.

So... how exactly is it clarified now? It still seems like it's not clear whether you can actually make all attacks in one round, because unlike Umbral Touch it doesn't have a duration.
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Re: Favorite badly-written rule
« Reply #99 on: April 16, 2009, 04:34:29 PM »
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