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Wizard casts invisibility, casts invisible spell'd caltrops, grease, web... Invisible spell becomes super broken because you can do stuff like invisible spell'd soften earth and stone, invisible spell'd fabricate, make any type of preparations you want, the army runs into it, and they all die. A level 1 warrior can die from a caltrop wound, especially if they are caught flat-footed by them. Then you animate your caltrop army into small animated objects and win the game.Also, use minor creation (invisibly, of course), to coat your army of animated caltrops with black lotus extract. 1 casting is enough for 1000 doses of the stuff.So what we have here is an invisible wizard who has technically not taken any harmful actions, with an army of poisoned invisible animate caltrops. Maybe add in some Hunter's Eye and somehow get sneak attack with them (if that's possible).
Invisible spell is a +0 metamagic feat that makes all visible effects of the spell invisible. I just had this thought over in the thread about defeating an army:QuoteWizard casts invisibility, casts invisible spell'd caltrops, grease, web... Invisible spell becomes super broken because you can do stuff like invisible spell'd soften earth and stone, invisible spell'd fabricate, make any type of preparations you want, the army runs into it, and they all die. A level 1 warrior can die from a caltrop wound, especially if they are caught flat-footed by them. Then you animate your caltrop army into small animated objects and win the game.Also, use minor creation (invisibly, of course), to coat your army of animated caltrops with black lotus extract. 1 casting is enough for 1000 doses of the stuff.So what we have here is an invisible wizard who has technically not taken any harmful actions, with an army of poisoned invisible animate caltrops. Maybe add in some Hunter's Eye and somehow get sneak attack with them (if that's possible). I dunno if that works, but I think we've only scratched the surface. How broken can you make Invisible spell?One obvious use is crafting magic items with it. A Holy Avenger can be crafted as an invisible holy avenger by using invisible (that spell that makes materials), invisible fabricate to make it into a sword, and then add invisible to all of the spell effects that go into the Holy Avenger. You now have a completely invisible weapon, at no additional cost. You can obviously craft larger things such as airships and pit traps and Warforged. Yup, a permanently invisible Warforged. Or just create a new invisible body for yourself by paying a caster for an Invisible Clone! Hello, Sneak Attack!
Invisible Genesis.
One obvious use is crafting magic items with it. A Holy Avenger can be crafted as an invisible holy avenger by using invisible (that spell that makes materials), invisible fabricate to make it into a sword, and then add invisible to all of the spell effects that go into the Holy Avenger. You now have a completely invisible weapon, at no additional cost.
How's somebody going to determine if something exists or not when they can't see it?
Quote from: Prak, the Mad on May 24, 2009, 03:53:58 AMOOC-well for that matter he could just ride on my sword, that's about 15' OOC - That's what SHE said! But, otherwise, that works for me, if you guys are willing.
OOC-well for that matter he could just ride on my sword, that's about 15'
So you end up stuck in an endless loop, unable to act, forever.In retrospect, much like Keanu Reeves.
Cast invisible invisibility on invisible invisible stalkers.
Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on March 22, 2009, 04:56:50 PMCast invisible invisibility on invisible invisible stalkers.If the effects of Invisibility are rendered invisible, wouldn't the result be a visible creature?
the most effective optimization is the one you can actually get away with.
(A group of nerds are called a murder because like crows we are anti-social, like shiny things, and often squack at each other over nothing for hours)
I often have to remind people not to underrate divination. The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
