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DavidWL

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The basic Idea:

Succubi Fiend of Possession
      - who possesses (and can use all abilities, feats, and skills of):
Yak Folk attribute junkie (Undead Leadership Cohort)
      - who possesses (and can use physical abilities, feats, skills, exceptional abilities of):
Human Jordain Vizier dipper (Leadership Cohort)

1 - Fiend
Build:
  • Succubus 6 + 6 LA (1 LA bought off)/Fiend of Possession 6/Marshall 1/Warblade 1

Attributes:
  • High Mental Attributes (CHA & INT)

Feats:
  • Undead Leadership (for yak folk)
  • leadership (for jordain vizier)
  • Mindsight
  • Dreamtelling
  • 2 free feats

Notes:
  • Warblade for saves and Iron Heart Surge
  • Fiend of Possession goodness
  • Motivate Dex, Motivate Int => Cha to Init, Dex rolls (default)

2 - Necropolitan Yak Folk w/ LA buyoff
Build:
  • Yak Folk 5 (2 LA bought off)/Paladin of Freedom 2/Hexblade 3/Marshall 2/Fighter 2/Blackguard 2/warblade 1/

Attributes:
  • High Mental Attributes (INT & CHA) - but doesn't matter that much

Feats:
  • 5 free feats
  • Cleave
  • Improved Sunder
  • Power Attack

Notes:
  • BAB = 16
  • Cha*~3 to saves
  • Mettle

3 - Human Jordain Vizier
Build:
  • Feat Rogue 2/Monk 2/Jordain Vizier 5/Chameleon 2/Sorcerer 1/Factotum 3/Arcane Duelist 2

Attributes:
  • High Physical Attributes (CON)

Feats:
  • 4 feats
  • Able Learner
  • Aesthetic Mage
  • spellwise
  • iron will
  • Dodge
  • Mobility
  • 2 fighter feats
  • 1 floating feat

Notes:   
  • Evasion
  • Spell Reflection sub level for evasion for monk
  • Cha *2 to AC
  • Mimic (EoE, p 21): lose trapfinding, gain disguise self
  • Trapfinding
  • Floating Feat
  • Cha to Saves vs spells
  • Int to Dex/Con/Str rolls

Overall Summary
- extremely tough
  • Cha * 4? to saves (some abilities may overlap rather than stack - need to check)
  • Cha * 2 to AC
  • Cha * 1 to Init
  • Int * 1 to Init
  • High HP through CON focus in Human
  • Evasion, Mettle, Spell Reflection
  • iron heart surge

- good skillmonkey
  • massive skill points between the three (all of which can overlap)
  • Eidetic Memory
  • *2 Wis bonus for skills
  • +Int bonus to Dex/Str/Con skills & ability rolls
  • Trapfinding
  • Mimic
  • Able Learner

- Great oracle / scout
  • Dreamtelling
  • Fiend of possession can scout
  • *2 Int to knowledge skills
  • Telepathy / Mindsight

- Dangerous in Combat
  • BAB 16
  • 5 set fighter feats
  • 2 free fighter feats
  • 11 free feats
  • 2 Warblade Dips
   => Nasty Feat Chains and some ToB trickiness

- Also, many other misc. abilities

Feedback Appreciated. 

All books are fair game.  Unless it is pure awesomeness, I'd like to keep it as legal and unquestionable as possible - as it is, the interpretation is difficult with the double possession. This isn't for play, but just a build for fun.

Within the constraints of the double possession, I'm willing to look at changing almost anything.  The trick is to get lots of cool feats and exceptional abilities in the Human, and lots of cool anything in the yak folk.  Ideally, these abilities would somehow synergize.  My goal is to take utmost advantage of the cascading possessions.

For example, the Int and Cha based abilities of the yak folk and human are driven by the charisma and intelligence of the succubus.  Likewise, we can build more awesome feat chains by using the feats between the 3 builds (for practical purposes, the last 2 builds, as it stands now).

This is the beginning of my first stab.  I think all is legit.  I used a number of alternate class features and LA Buyoff.  Thoughts on making the builds more optimal is very desired.

Very Best,
David
« Last Edit: May 26, 2008, 11:25:47 PM by DavidWL »
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Non-PC activities like out of combat healing should be left to wands and NPCs. It's not fun to play a walking wand of CLW. Likewise, being a combat wall is not a viable PC role. A Wall of Force could do that.

-Sort of, but you left out the important note that a Wall of Force does it better.

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Re: Fiend of Possession possesses Yak Folk who possesses Human
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2008, 09:21:59 AM »
The first problem I am seeing is that you seem to be misunderstanding Level Adjustment buy-off. It happens, don't worry.

You can only buy off Level Adjustment when your total Class levels are equal to three times your Level Adjustment.

Racial HD do NOT factor into this equation.

So, the Succubus, with a level adjustment of +6, needs 18 Class levels before it can buy off its first level adjustment. That means at ECL 30 (6HD +6LA +18Class levels), it can buy off a level adjustment for ECL-1 (29) x 1,000xp => 29,000XP. It would then be ECL 29 (having only a +5LA).

You've got the Yak-Folk LA buy-off done fine, however the Spellstiched template, according to the 3.5 update for MM2, has LA --. This means it cannot be applied to a "PC," if you will. Since it cannot be applied to a PC, it is not viable for a cohort.
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Re: Fiend of Possession possesses Yak Folk who possesses Human
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2008, 09:58:48 AM »
Doesn't the CArc version of spellstitched treat it much like an Item Creation effect?

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Re: Fiend of Possession possesses Yak Folk who possesses Human
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2008, 10:11:36 AM »
Doesn't the CArc version of spellstitched treat it much like an Item Creation effect?
The template still has a LA -- entry, so no dice.
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Re: Fiend of Possession possesses Yak Folk who possesses Human
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2008, 01:43:29 PM »
Thank you aftercrescent!

I really appreciate the feedback - I'll update when I get back from work!

Very Best,
David

EDIT: Updated
« Last Edit: May 26, 2008, 11:20:54 PM by DavidWL »
Some Cool Quotes:  [spoiler]
Quote from: unknown
Non-PC activities like out of combat healing should be left to wands and NPCs. It's not fun to play a walking wand of CLW. Likewise, being a combat wall is not a viable PC role. A Wall of Force could do that.

-Sort of, but you left out the important note that a Wall of Force does it better.

Quote from: Runestar / skydragonknight
The most powerful character is the one that you actually get to play.

Quote from: Operation Shoestring
I often have to remind people not to underrate divination.  The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
[/spoiler]
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