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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2008, 10:02:59 PM »
Phaerim.  Double the spells, double the fun.

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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2008, 10:43:19 PM »
Phaerim.  Double the spells, double the fun.

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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2008, 10:58:19 PM »
Zern is amazing, but, I could never get that down to +2, I don't think. Plus all those HD, whew, that would be harder to convince the DM to let me do than probably the Pazuzu trick, don't ask me why.
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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2008, 01:36:38 AM »
Hobgoblin Warcaster from MMV casts spells as a 4th-level wizard and wizard levels stack with that.  4HD, LA +3 (+1 for you), so you'd have all the abilities from the 4HD, including DR 5/magic, monstrous humanoid type (for alter self), spell eater, pillar of magic, hobgoblin racial bonuses, and SR 14.  Not perfect because of the 1 LA remaining, but still pretty cool I think.  Plus, nobody ever plays hobgoblins anymore.

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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2008, 01:46:30 AM »
Feral Dark Dragonborn?
Feral = Int penalty.
Int penalty = Bad for Wizards.
Feral = Bad for Wizards.

Forgot about that.

Dark Dragonborn Fire Gensai? "See, my father was an extraplanar dragon-descendent from the plane of shadows and my mother had a fire elemental relative...long story short, I'm a shadowy, dragony fire gensai. I'd rather not get into the details."  ;)

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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2008, 02:34:11 AM »
Phaerim.  Double the spells, double the fun.

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Lost Empires of Faerun. Phaerimm hatchlings are +2 LA, and get sorcerer casting as a sorcerer equal to their character level. So basically, a phaerimm wizard is free gestalt wizard/sorcerer. Also, the Phaerimm casts all sorcerer spells as SLAs.
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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2008, 03:48:19 AM »
Negative level on a chicken would make it a wight the next day.  Chicken the other wight meat. -borg286

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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2008, 04:19:03 AM »
I don't see any other way to interpret that...

Then again, that's so broke I don't know of a sane DM that would allow it.

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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2008, 05:34:21 AM »
Well, I always read it to say that unless you take level in Sorcerer or +1 Spellcasting classes, you only get the increased Caster Level for you Phaerimm Spells, not actual spell progression.

What's more, Hatchling Phaerimm (at +2 LA) trade their one and only Abberation HD for their first class level, so they have no Sorcerer spellcasting at all, unless they pick it up later.  :P

It's still a VERY decent Race for a Sorcerer, even so, seeing that they get Auto Still Spell x 3, Auto Silent Spell x 3 and Ignore Material Components (7 Epic Feats, not counting their requirements...) for free. Not to mention what is effectively Improved Practiced Spellcaster (Sorcerer), +2 Natural Armor, Detect Magic at Will, Immunity to Polymorph and Petrification, SR 11 and Claws.
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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2008, 10:50:14 AM »
Very DECENT? Fucking amazing I would say. I would even forego Wizard for Sorc in that case, because if you pick the right spells the sorc can be easier to play, and is more generally prepared for all sitations. Plus Versatile Spellcaster makes for pretty awesome power.

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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2008, 11:47:59 AM »
Well, yeah. Speaking of which, technically, they don't pay XP for casting spells, either (they cast Sorcerer spells as SLAs). Wish spamming, anyone?
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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2008, 12:29:12 PM »
In games without LA buyoff, I don't think it's worth it being 3 levels behind a wizard.  With LA buyoff, Ultimate Magus suddenly looks pretty sexy with wings of flurry having a caster level of at least 34 at level 20.

Edit: I do apologize to the OP for this derailing.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2008, 12:45:27 PM by Rebel7284 »
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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2008, 02:31:49 PM »
More realistically, the Phrenic template is good enough for normal play, though.  Not game breaking, but just right.

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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2008, 08:28:29 PM »
I looked at the Phaerimm.  I imagine asking my DM if I could play a magical tubeworm.
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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2008, 02:47:12 AM »
Oh. I thought it was an evil windsock.

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Re: What race should my Focused Transmuter be? (Free -2 to my LA)
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2008, 03:25:19 AM »
I went with Phrenic Dragonwrought Desert Kobold in the end. As was said, it's just right for this, not overpowered. Thanks everyone!
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