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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #820 on: September 08, 2009, 08:02:58 PM »
Shadowcraft Mage to cast it as a standard action! Hope the spell school is right.

By heightening a Minor Image to 9th level, correct?
Silent image, preferably.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #821 on: September 08, 2009, 08:09:33 PM »
Shadowcraft Mage to cast it as a standard action! Hope the spell school is right.

By heightening a Minor Image to 9th level, correct?
Silent image, preferably.

Of course!  :lmao
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #822 on: September 08, 2009, 08:45:15 PM »
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #823 on: September 08, 2009, 09:02:42 PM »
Although i can't remember the exact combination of feats, a non-epic level, non-spell caster can cover an entire world (Or maybe plane) is a nigh-endless field of elemental damage, using the dragonborn's breathe weapon, and liberal aplications of metabreathe feats from the dracomicon.

Lingering Breath and Widen Breath can be applied as often as you like, but they delay your next use of the ability. So you apply each of them infinite times and never get to use your breath weapon again. The breath weapon is infinitely wide and lasts infinitely long. So the entire plane is burning forever.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #824 on: September 10, 2009, 07:58:19 AM »
i used that as a camp-protection for the nigth. after giving all other players the ability to ignore the effects of my breathweapon :-D
it might not be subtle but really noone is stupid enough to go in there^^
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #825 on: September 10, 2009, 08:09:00 AM »
Although i can't remember the exact combination of feats, a non-epic level, non-spell caster can cover an entire world (Or maybe plane) is a nigh-endless field of elemental damage, using the dragonborn's breathe weapon, and liberal aplications of metabreathe feats from the dracomicon.

Lingering Breath and Widen Breath can be applied as often as you like, but they delay your next use of the ability. So you apply each of them infinite times and never get to use your breath weapon again. The breath weapon is infinitely wide and lasts infinitely long. So the entire plane is burning forever.

You know if you're a JPM you can get around that, making it a 1/week world destruction :P  Emerald Immolation becomes Death Star Reload!
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #826 on: September 10, 2009, 12:46:57 PM »
Although i can't remember the exact combination of feats, a non-epic level, non-spell caster can cover an entire world (Or maybe plane) is a nigh-endless field of elemental damage, using the dragonborn's breathe weapon, and liberal aplications of metabreathe feats from the dracomicon.

Lingering Breath and Widen Breath can be applied as often as you like, but they delay your next use of the ability. So you apply each of them infinite times and never get to use your breath weapon again. The breath weapon is infinitely wide and lasts infinitely long. So the entire plane is burning forever.

You know if you're a JPM you can get around that, making it a 1/week world destruction :P  Emerald Immolation becomes Death Star Reload!
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #827 on: September 10, 2009, 02:00:33 PM »
can this thread be consolidated into an actual handbook by someone. I was looking for something in here and had a hard time finding it mixed with the other discussion in here.

Perhaps use the handbook user and make a thread in handbooks so the discussion on tricks can be here and once they are finalized they get put into the handbook, and a note in the first post of the handbook to not post in there except to add a vetted trick?
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #828 on: September 10, 2009, 05:12:22 PM »
Although i can't remember the exact combination of feats, a non-epic level, non-spell caster can cover an entire world (Or maybe plane) is a nigh-endless field of elemental damage, using the dragonborn's breathe weapon, and liberal aplications of metabreathe feats from the dracomicon.

Lingering Breath and Widen Breath can be applied as often as you like, but they delay your next use of the ability. So you apply each of them infinite times and never get to use your breath weapon again. The breath weapon is infinitely wide and lasts infinitely long. So the entire plane is burning forever.

You know if you're a JPM you can get around that, making it a 1/week world destruction :P  Emerald Immolation becomes Death Star Reload!
No Buu, no. Why. Why are you doing this! There be nothing, nothing left at all.

ROFL, right on :P  As a DBZ fan -ducks-, that's hilarious.  The sad part : JPM isn't even needed...just a breath weapon to get the feats, and then use the breath weapon of another form.  Say, Dragonshape!  Oh, and then it's not 1/week.  It's 1/casting of a 9th level spell.  Which is AT WILL if you play your cards right.  Before epic :)
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #829 on: September 10, 2009, 11:44:33 PM »
Although i can't remember the exact combination of feats, a non-epic level, non-spell caster can cover an entire world (Or maybe plane) is a nigh-endless field of elemental damage, using the dragonborn's breathe weapon, and liberal aplications of metabreathe feats from the dracomicon.

Lingering Breath and Widen Breath can be applied as often as you like, but they delay your next use of the ability. So you apply each of them infinite times and never get to use your breath weapon again. The breath weapon is infinitely wide and lasts infinitely long. So the entire plane is burning forever.

I was under the impression lingering breath did 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, and so on, which converges to double base value.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #830 on: September 11, 2009, 12:08:16 AM »
Incidentally, keep on the lookout for a thread about the many yummy applications of Invisible Spell once I get my PC back rather than using my PS3 to do my browsing (assuming it hasn't been done.)
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #831 on: September 11, 2009, 12:48:32 AM »
On a related note using a shadowcraft mage to shadow create a wall of via a 9th level heightened silent image and shadowcrafter  can create 140% real iron. I am wondering what the properties of this material would be? Would it do more damage, be stronger, could it be resisted with spell resistance?

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #832 on: September 11, 2009, 12:49:58 AM »
On a related note using a shadowcraft mage to shadow create a wall of via a 9th level heightened silent image and shadowcrafter  can create 140% real iron. I am wondering what the properties of this material would be? Would it do more damage, be stronger, could it be resisted with spell resistance?
Although you'd expect it to be better, it's actually just more ironic.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #833 on: September 11, 2009, 12:51:18 AM »
On a related note using a shadowcraft mage to shadow create a wall of via a 9th level heightened silent image and shadowcrafter  can create 140% real iron. I am wondering what the properties of this material would be? Would it do more damage, be stronger, could it be resisted with spell resistance?
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #834 on: September 11, 2009, 12:51:58 AM »
The reason I am wondering is that a shadowcraft mage could also use true creation to create infinite wealth, but I really want to know if there would be anything unexpected about the material.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #835 on: September 11, 2009, 01:55:04 AM »
Although i can't remember the exact combination of feats, a non-epic level, non-spell caster can cover an entire world (Or maybe plane) is a nigh-endless field of elemental damage, using the dragonborn's breathe weapon, and liberal aplications of metabreathe feats from the dracomicon.

Lingering Breath and Widen Breath can be applied as often as you like, but they delay your next use of the ability. So you apply each of them infinite times and never get to use your breath weapon again. The breath weapon is infinitely wide and lasts infinitely long. So the entire plane is burning forever.

I was under the impression lingering breath did 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, and so on, which converges to double base value.
no, lingering does 1 the first round and 1/2 all subsequent rounds, I'm pretty sure
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #836 on: September 11, 2009, 02:30:04 AM »
Assuming that the 1d6 added by the Psionic Fist feat is of the same type as whatever it's applied to...

What would happen if you cast heal augmented by Psionic Fist, along with a metamagic rod of Empower? [1d6+150]*1.5?
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #837 on: September 11, 2009, 10:34:10 AM »
On a related note using a shadowcraft mage to shadow create a wall of via a 9th level heightened silent image and shadowcrafter  can create 140% real iron. I am wondering what the properties of this material would be? Would it do more damage, be stronger, could it be resisted with spell resistance?
Well, I GUESS some might rule that such material has more hardness and HP.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #838 on: September 11, 2009, 03:40:13 PM »
On a related note using a shadowcraft mage to shadow create a wall of via a 9th level heightened silent image and shadowcrafter  can create 140% real iron. I am wondering what the properties of this material would be? Would it do more damage, be stronger, could it be resisted with spell resistance?
Well, I GUESS some might rule that such material has more hardness and HP.
According to the periodic table, it would be 60% Kryptonite and 40% Rubidium.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #839 on: September 11, 2009, 03:56:58 PM »
Assuming that the 1d6 added by the Psionic Fist feat is of the same type as whatever it's applied to...

What would happen if you cast heal augmented by Psionic Fist, along with a metamagic rod of Empower? [1d6+150]*1.5?

You'd get 150+(1d6)*1.5. Empower only affects the variable, numeric aspects of a spell, which the 150 isn't. The example of magic missile is wrong. At least, that's how I'd interpret it.

The feat is contradictory, you see.

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