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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #400 on: January 10, 2009, 11:41:05 PM »
FMI is Charisma. It's Mind Over Body that's Int, but IIRC it's only for first level (or Unholy Toughness, but that's not a feat).
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #401 on: January 10, 2009, 11:46:32 PM »
What about a psion with schism, Dorje Mastery, Dual Dorje Wielder (from CPsi), a psicrystal, and ranks in UPD? You get to fire off two dorjes at a time, your psicrystal gets its own dorje to use, and so does your schism (and if your psicrystal has been altered via metamorphosis and you share schism with it, it can use an additional one, too).

That's up to 5 shots per round. And note that, unlike wands, you can get dorjes of 5th level and above.

Get Quickdraw and eternal dorjes (ie, eternal wands, but with psionic powers stored in them) to keep this from being ridiculously expensive.

Added in with a swift-action power, Linked Power, and one other power, and you can fire off a total of 6 this round, and up to 7 next round.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #402 on: January 11, 2009, 12:13:27 AM »
One important note: you CANNOT combine Iajuitsu Focus with Sneak Attack.  It's in the special rules for IF.  Annoying, but there it is.  Yet one more reason the Factotum's 4th level ability is pretty darn worthless.

EDIT:  Just doubled checked.  FMI is indeed Int to HP, not Charisma.  Though I have to wonder... can you use that with a Necropolitan?  It says you use Int instead of Con...

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #403 on: January 11, 2009, 12:28:31 AM »
Ah. You're right. I could've sworn it was Charisma. Oh well; this makes wizards even better.

The feat doesn't have Con as a prerequisite, so you use the Int you do have instead of the Con you don't have. It's like going to the store to buy apples, but they don't have any, so you get some mangoes instead. Mangoes > apples.  :smirk
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #404 on: January 11, 2009, 12:32:03 AM »
FMI is Charisma. It's Mind Over Body that's Int, but IIRC it's only for first level (or Unholy Toughness, but that's not a feat).

FMI is Int in place of Con (which works for Undead, since even though you have no Con score, you still apply that nothing to your HP).

Mind Over Body is Int in place of Con for 1st level.

Unholy Toughness is Cha in place of Con, but is a special quality, not a feat.

There's a Fey based feat in one of the old Fey web enhancement articles that adds Cha in place of Con for 1st level only, this is likely what you're thinking of Lycan.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #405 on: January 11, 2009, 01:53:48 AM »
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One important note: you CANNOT combine Iajuitsu Focus with Sneak Attack.  It's in the special rules for IF. 

Source? I see nothing of the sort in the book, or in the FAQ, or in the errata for OA.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #406 on: January 11, 2009, 02:01:33 AM »
Interesting!  I was using an online source that looked correct and stated that Iajuitsu Focus couldn't work with sneak attack, but upon checking the primary source (OA) that rule doesn't actually exist.  Damn ninja houserulers.

Okay, strike it then.  It works just fine.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #407 on: January 11, 2009, 02:39:14 AM »
Another nasty psionics trick. Use metamorphosis to turn into a nasty creature of some sort, then manifest astral seed, and kill yourself. You'll return as whatever you transformed into. Better if you use Metamorphic Transfer to permanently gain the use of a supernatural ability.

Addendum: Go find a really nasty creature. Wait until it's asleep. Manifest psionic dominate on it until it's under your control. Wake it up, then manifest fusion with it, making certain it fails its saving throw. If it's the wrong size or type, use metamorphosis on yourself, or UMD a scroll of polymorph on it. Use fusion with it, then dispel the polymorph, if necessary. Then manifest astral seed and kill yourself. You'll come back as an amalgamation of you and the creature. If the creature's mental scores were higher than yours, you get to keep them.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #408 on: January 11, 2009, 07:35:43 AM »
Addendum: Go find a really nasty creature. Wait until it's asleep. Manifest psionic dominate on it until it's under your control. Wake it up, then manifest fusion with it, making certain it fails its saving throw. If it's the wrong size or type, use metamorphosis on yourself, or UMD a scroll of polymorph on it. Use fusion with it, then dispel the polymorph, if necessary. Then manifest astral seed and kill yourself. You'll come back as an amalgamation of you and the creature. If the creature's mental scores were higher than yours, you get to keep them.
I don't think you need to dominate it if it's already sleeping. Unconscious creatures are automatically considered willing.

Which brings me to something else: Depending on how you interpret "willing", your Paladin could walk around raping people and/or monsters in their sleep, picking them up and throwing them into lakes, etc. so long as they're sleeping, without losing his Paladin status. Less of a dirty trick than a silly one, but still.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #409 on: January 11, 2009, 07:37:01 AM »
Addendum: Go find a really nasty creature. Wait until it's asleep. Manifest psionic dominate on it until it's under your control. Wake it up, then manifest fusion with it, making certain it fails its saving throw. If it's the wrong size or type, use metamorphosis on yourself, or UMD a scroll of polymorph on it. Use fusion with it, then dispel the polymorph, if necessary. Then manifest astral seed and kill yourself. You'll come back as an amalgamation of you and the creature. If the creature's mental scores were higher than yours, you get to keep them.
I don't think you need to dominate it if it's already sleeping. Unconscious creatures are automatically considered willing.

Try telling that to my girlfriend  :(

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #410 on: January 11, 2009, 09:20:20 AM »
I tried and she still called me a rapist.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #411 on: January 11, 2009, 09:26:49 AM »
I tried and she still called me a rapist.
Point that passage out to her and see what happens?  :P
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #412 on: January 11, 2009, 02:16:06 PM »
I thought the same thing for awhile, until someone pointed out to me that creatures are only mentioned as being 'willing' for the purposes of targeting effects. For instance, share pain requires a willing creature to be targeted. A sleeping creature counts as 'willing' for this purpose, but not for auto-failing saving throws.

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That's the only place I've found where it mentions sleeping creatures and being 'willing' for any effect. Thus, unless your DM house-rules otherwise, it's better to be safe than sorry.
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #413 on: January 11, 2009, 04:37:46 PM »
I tried and she still called me a rapist.
Point that passage out to her and see what happens?  :P
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #414 on: January 11, 2009, 05:04:15 PM »
I tried and she still called me a rapist.
Point that passage out to her and see what happens?  :P
She calls the cops, because I am breaking the restraining order?

I think it might be over the top calling her girlfriend if she has a restraining order out on you....

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #415 on: January 11, 2009, 05:12:50 PM »
I tried and she still called me a rapist.
Point that passage out to her and see what happens?  :P
She calls the cops, because I am breaking the restraining order?

I think it might be over the top calling her girlfriend if she has a restraining order out on you....
Meh, she's just in denial :P
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #416 on: January 11, 2009, 07:55:25 PM »
I tried and she still called me a rapist.
Point that passage out to her and see what happens?  :P
She calls the cops, because I am breaking the restraining order?

I think it might be over the top calling her girlfriend if she has a restraining order out on you....
Well, I have her on my hit list, so technically I one-upped her.

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #417 on: January 11, 2009, 08:32:35 PM »
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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #418 on: January 12, 2009, 03:17:16 AM »
Is the trollblooded trick in here? If no, could someone explain it more fully?

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Re: Do we have a dirty trick handbook?
« Reply #419 on: January 12, 2009, 08:37:55 AM »
Take Toughness (prerequisite) and Troll-Blooded (can only be taken at level 1) to gain Regeneration 1 (Acid and Fire deal lethal damage). You become fatigued in sunlight.

So either start at at least level 6 and take a level of Horizon Walker, or play a Warforged.

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