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Huge amounts of people are fuckwits. That doesn't mean that fuckwit is a valid lifestyle.
Sunic may be more abrasive than sandpaper coated in chainsaws (not that its a bad thing, he really does know what he's talking about), but just posting in this thread without warning and telling him he's an asshole which, if you knew his past experiences on WotC and Paizo is flat-out uncalled for. Never mind the insults (which are clearly 4Chan-level childish). You say people like Sunic are the bane of the internet? Try looking at your own post and telling me you are better than him.Here's a fun fact: You aren't. By a few leagues.
So basically it is better to let the fighter die and bring in another cleric, a druid, or a dragon shaman to heal. That's the logical conclusion to what you are saying.
A couple of water benders, a dike, a flaming arrow, and a few barrels of blasting jelly?Sounds like the makings of a gay porn film.
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Quote from: ubernoob on October 16, 2008, 05:51:21 PMSo basically it is better to let the fighter die and bring in another cleric, a druid, or a dragon shaman to heal. That's the logical conclusion to what you are saying.I wouldn't argue with that.
Quote from: PhaedrusXY on October 16, 2008, 06:12:19 PMQuote from: ubernoob on October 16, 2008, 05:51:21 PMSo basically it is better to let the fighter die and bring in another cleric, a druid, or a dragon shaman to heal. That's the logical conclusion to what you are saying.I wouldn't argue with that. In that case your whole argument about healing is moot because fighters have no place in level 1 or 2 games. Thank you.
Quote from: ubernoob on October 16, 2008, 06:15:53 PMQuote from: PhaedrusXY on October 16, 2008, 06:12:19 PMQuote from: ubernoob on October 16, 2008, 05:51:21 PMSo basically it is better to let the fighter die and bring in another cleric, a druid, or a dragon shaman to heal. That's the logical conclusion to what you are saying.I wouldn't argue with that. In that case your whole argument about healing is moot because fighters have no place in level 1 or 2 games. Thank you.Not really. Even in an all cleric party, at 1st level you're better off saving your slots for casting Faith Healing or Lesser Vigor after combat, than wasting them on Bless.
Ubernoob, you don't always get to decide when the combat starts. At least in my games low level encounters are quite often started when the party was unprepared for the fight and in cases like that Bless is not that useful.
Healing Domain is a Trap. :rolleyes
Quote from: Tshern on October 16, 2008, 06:34:08 PMUbernoob, you don't always get to decide when the combat starts. At least in my games low level encounters are quite often started when the party was unprepared for the fight and in cases like that Bless is not that useful.Oh no, I get to convert bless to CLW once combat is over to deal with the damage. What will I do?Bless is better than CLW to prepare. Doesn't stop clerics from converting on the fly.
true .... however i was refering to some other spells that would improve Combat Abilities..... Faith Healing and Lesser Vigor would have to be prepared lilke normalfor Healing after 3rd lvl... usually the cleric will have the feat: Touch of Healing(Reserve).... or it is possible to have the Feat Draconic Aura(Vigor)... that way you dont spend spells on healing unless absolutely necessary
He did not. It was a strawman.
Quote from: ubernoob on October 16, 2008, 06:46:43 PMQuote from: Tshern on October 16, 2008, 06:34:08 PMUbernoob, you don't always get to decide when the combat starts. At least in my games low level encounters are quite often started when the party was unprepared for the fight and in cases like that Bless is not that useful.Oh no, I get to convert bless to CLW once combat is over to deal with the damage. What will I do?Bless is better than CLW to prepare. Doesn't stop clerics from converting on the fly.Where the fuck did I say you should prepare CLW? I said there are situations in which Bless is useless, because I didn't think your assessments of its usefulness were accurate.