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Banor

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Crusader build need comments :)
« on: May 18, 2008, 03:30:41 AM »
This is the build I came up with for aftercrescent PbP game. Plan to use Dragonfire Inspiration coupled with Song of the White Raven and Words of Creation for a solid party buff. Outcast Champion gives a nice +5 will saves to the group as well as a "smite-like" ability. Focusing on the charge line of White Raven with the wings aspect for dive.

Dragonborn (Wings aspect Half-Elf) Bard 4/Marshal 1/Crusader 10/Outcast Champion 5

Str : 16
Dex : 6
Con : 16
Int : 15
Wis : 8
Cha : 15

Level Class Feat
1.Bard 1   Extra Music (likely to get retrained at 9 for Power attack) ACF (Soothing voice)
2.Bard 2         
3.Marshal 1   Word of Creation   (Motivate Dexterity)   
4.Bard 3   +1 Cha      
5.Bard 4         
6.Crusader 1   Extra Granted Maneuver      
7.Outcast C 1         
8.Outcast C 2   +1 Str      
9.Outcast C 3   Dragonfire Inspiration      
10.Outcast C 4         
11.Outcast C 5         
12.Crusader 2   +1 Str   Song of the White Raven   
13.Crusader 3         
14.Crusader 4         
15.Crusader 5   White Raven Defense      
16.Crusader 6   +1 Cha      
17.Crusader 7         
18.Crusader 8   Clarion Commander      
19.Crusader 9         
20.Crusader 10   +1 Cha      

Maneuvers known

Crusader 1   ST : Martial Spirit DS : Crusader Strike, Foehammer WR : Leading Attack, Battle Leader's charge, Tactical Strike         
Crusader 2   ST : Press the advantage               
Crusader 3   WR : White Raven Tactics         
Crusader 4   Battle Leader's Charge => War Leader's Charge         
Crusader 5   DS : Rallying Strike         
Crusader 6   Leading Attack => Swarming Assault         
Crusader 7   Castigating Strike         
Crusader 8   ST : Swarm Tactics   Tactical Strike => White Raven Hammer         
Crusader 9   Order forged from Chaos         
Crusader 10   War Leader's Charge => War Master's Charge      

Any comments/suggestions ? I'm not too sure about Outcast champion, I kinda like this PrC but I don't know it seem to be lacking of punch. Also I a bit lost on PrC advancing or not IL. For maneuvers, did I miss anything ? I think I got the good stuff but I can't be too sure

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Re: Crusader build need comments :)
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 03:39:32 AM »
My initial thought is to play a Half-Human Elf rather than a Half-elf. And that's without reading the entire build, I just don't think half-elves are that great.
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Re: Crusader build need comments :)
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 03:41:14 AM »
Ditch OC.  Don't forget Melodic Casting or a Harmonizing Weapon, and I'd recommend being a Bard over a Crusader for Bardic Knack, spells, and skills (not in that order, of course).  Just think of what you give up - glibness, invisibility sphere, charm monster . . . the list goes on and on.

At this rate, we'll ALL be draconically flavored!  We should work it into our team style!

Except that my character is going to be evil.

Totally, unequivocally, EVIL.

But a nice guy to his friends and a reliable adventuring companion!  With good hygiene and a sense of humor, even!   :lol

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Re: Crusader build need comments :)
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 04:58:14 AM »
Arg, stupid browser crash when you hit post ><

Anyway, JJ, I think you are right about OC and I've found a good alternative. I'm going to get 6 levels of Mythic Exemplar (Reikhardt). I loose 2 BAB and 2 HP, gaining 3rd level spells (mainly for glibness) as well keeping my IL high enough to get L9 Maneuvers. The build would look like Bard 2/Marshal 1/Bard +2/Crusader 1/Mythic Exemplar 6/Crusader +8. I'll take ACFs Soothing voice and Loresong. Maneuvers selection remain pretty much the same, only dropping Order forged from Chaos and changing Martial spirit for Leading the charge.

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Re: Crusader build need comments :)
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 07:01:50 PM »
Wow I'm quite an idiot, I totally forgot flaws. With that, I'll be able to take Power Attack at 1 and Stone Power as well :)

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Re: Crusader build need comments :)
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2008, 12:43:12 PM »
Check out Eternal Blade, it's a great PrC and you're walking right into it with your elven blood.

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Re: Crusader build need comments :)
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2008, 01:00:13 PM »
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Except that my character is going to be evil.

Hahaha it's going to be a Bahamut vs. Tiamat showdown!  :P