I don't think aelryinth ever ment it to be the Pun-Pun of Lockdown builds, but rather wanted to prove that Fighter 20 is viable. To be honest, the build isn't totally dependant on the Antimagic torc even though many users would want that to be the case.
I didn't say it was.
I said thats what pissed me off about the build.
As for seeing the torc in play well...YMMV is true I guess. *shrug*.
Further personally I never thought/stated fighter 20 wasn't viable. That wasn't even news "FIGHTER 20 Viable!" wasn't a new thing or anything, the aformentioned Tripper. Jack b.Quick. Various Archer builds
There were already plenty of "viable" fighter 20 builds you can't prove something alreay on the books. He'll I can prove gravity now but that won't make the news. Fighter 20 has been viable for sometime... I do think that there are many better options, and there are.
Face it, when you're writing it down on a piece of paper, Fighter 20 is a lot cleaner looking than X1/Y2/E3/S2/C2/F1/G3... you get the idea.
True, Hell I play Barbarian 20 often... but that doesn't mean there's not something that can contribute more to the party than that.
Though another thing was that I thought that there were other builds that could do Reach weapon + standstill better, the psiwar 20 for instance. While generally offering more to the party. So did Uber I imagine but it really isn't worth my effort to go and try and prove it... then argue to defend it. As nauseum. Pass.
Its cool though, just my 2 cents.
Edit:
So, yes, to me there is a bias based on perceived elegance against dipping. I'll still be in favor of dipping when it comes to optimization.
I see... I suppose I have a bias towards dipping and how you dip I veiw it as "Tech" and thus thing "Damn that build is technologically brilliant" so subjectivity is the rule of the day.
One of my favorite examples of this was I think Logicninja came up with a Blacguard10/Paldin1/Nar Demonbinder 7 ( I can't remember how he finished that though. It was cool.
I also rember Khan and that antimagc dust. I kinda felt like why not just use sneezing and choking instead. . . but... hmm... I have a bias vs. items too I think.
I think alot of the people I've encountered IRL and in the old "Whats a Dm to do threads" were so anti magic shop that optimization had to stand independant of what you're being giving to work with. . .
but I digress I've nothing more to add.