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Re: How to make proper use of Extract Gift to gain personal power?
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2011, 10:53:06 PM »
The spell costs exactly as much as creating an unslotted, custom magic item, yes, and even with CL shenanigans doesn't necessarily allow for extremely high-end items.  What's more, it's a permanent duration spell.  Regardless of your CL, if you get hit with an MDJ then these bonuses are gone.  If you spent the time to craft the magic items, then you'd at least get a save.

So yeah, you really need to make it Supernatural with Dweomerkeeper in order to make it at all worthwhile.  That should take care of the SR issue as well.

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Re: How to make proper use of Extract Gift to gain personal power?
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2011, 11:54:59 PM »
And I don't believe in negotiating with Demons.  We kill them and enslave them, we don't negotiate!
Weaker people negotiate with demons, powerful people in slave or kill them, truly evil people have demons negotiating for them...

There is a lawyer joke in there some where but damned if I can figure out how to place it.
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Re: How to make proper use of Extract Gift to gain personal power?
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2011, 09:39:51 AM »
And I don't believe in negotiating with Demons.  We kill them and enslave them, we don't negotiate!
Weaker people negotiate with demons, powerful people in slave or kill them, truly evil people have demons negotiating for them...

There is a lawyer joke in there some where but damned if I can figure out how to place it.
Lawyers are demons?
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Re: How to make proper use of Extract Gift to gain personal power?
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2011, 09:43:20 AM »
And I don't believe in negotiating with Demons.  We kill them and enslave them, we don't negotiate!
Weaker people negotiate with demons, powerful people in slave or kill them, truly evil people have demons negotiating for them...

There is a lawyer joke in there some where but damned if I can figure out how to place it.
Lawyers are demons?

Devils actually. Lawful Evil. ;)
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