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Re: Leadership, Even more powerful than we thought.
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2011, 09:28:59 AM »
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Power of Faerun. Cohorts and *gasp* followers CAN take Leadership, RAW. So... :fu

Are there npc examples in that book that have followers with leadership or something?
Yes, even more then that.
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Re: Leadership, Even more powerful than we thought.
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2011, 08:27:45 PM »

So what is this gonna do, take Leadership at 6 and 9 and 12, etc ??




Thrallherd does better the: one at a time, until you get what you want.
And with less downside.

Thrallherd takes a Thrallherd takes a Thrallherd, is almost always better than Leadership.
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Re: Leadership, Even more powerful than we thought.
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2011, 04:45:41 PM »
Wait, if you can get as many cohorts as you want, what's the purpose of thrallhead?
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Re: Leadership, Even more powerful than we thought.
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2011, 05:08:32 PM »
Quote from: Dictum Mortuum on August 16, 2011, 04:45:41 PM
Wait, if you can get as many cohorts as you want, what's the purpose of thrallhead?


Being able to mistreat them horribly without consequence?
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Re: Leadership, Even more powerful than we thought.
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2011, 08:01:57 PM »
Giving the DM a rule that specifically says you can get multiple cohort-things, instead of just implying it?

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Being able to mistreat them horribly without consequence?
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Re: Leadership, Even more powerful than we thought.
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2011, 08:14:43 PM »
Quote from: Dictum Mortuum on August 16, 2011, 04:45:41 PM
Wait, if you can get as many cohorts as you want, what's the purpose of thrallhead?

Making a Soulknife 10 into a Tier 1 class  :D
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Re: Leadership, Even more powerful than we thought.
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2011, 07:24:14 PM »
Minor detail ... I've pointed out on other leadership threads,
that "race" is singular and "class" is singular.

This is not much of a nerf at all, but taking leadership (again!)
at say level 18 gets a cohort with 1 race and 1 class
and not much maneuvering room for the build.
Retraining and PsyRef, and even Rebuilding are possible,
only after showing up.
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Re: Leadership, Even more powerful than we thought.
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2011, 02:44:25 AM »
heheh. wow, that's... something. i had flashbacks to dungeonland reading that.
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Re: Leadership, Even more powerful than we thought.
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2011, 05:48:09 PM »

 :D ... and the alternative title for this thread:

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Re: Leadership, Even more powerful than we thought.
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2011, 03:39:11 AM »
well, this feat is all an attempt to bring back a portion of d&d dropped out during the conversion from 2nd to 3rd anyway. used to be you would get cohorts and followers and even forts or keeps or other small castles (ie: landlord feat) as part of your class features[/b].... ah, the good old days.
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