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Help a Druid pump up the terror
« on: July 20, 2011, 08:44:34 PM »
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 08:50:52 PM »
Use Summon Nature's Ally to pull in things with higher Intimidate scores.

Also, isn't there a feat that makes summons, like, pseudonatural creatures?

A druid summoning from Xoriat or the Far Realm would be fun!
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 09:16:45 PM »
Use Summon Nature's Ally to pull in things with higher Intimidate scores.

Also, isn't there a feat that makes summons, like, pseudonatural creatures?

A druid summoning from Xoriat or the Far Realm would be fun!

Nightbringer Initiate, perhaps?  Also facilitates Planar Shepherd entry quite nicely ;)
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 09:19:22 PM »
Use Summon Nature's Ally to pull in things with higher Intimidate scores.

Also, isn't there a feat that makes summons, like, pseudonatural creatures?

A druid summoning from Xoriat or the Far Realm would be fun!

I didn't think you could use the same effect (demoralise) to stack fear effects. Can you?

I've actually got Nightbringer initiate. Does that give Intimidate as a class skill or give me fear spells?
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 10:19:36 PM »
Nightbringer Initiate, Faith of Eberron p.147: [spoiler]It gives hide and move silently as class skills, and adds inflict light wounds, darkness, deeper darkness, enervation, summon monster V (only for a shadow mastiff), planar ally (only things native to Mabar), control undead, create greater undead (only for greater shadows), and gate (only to open a gate to Mabar) to your druid's spell list.[/spoiler] Not really good as far as escalating fear goes, though thematically better than Greensinger Initiate as far as Planar Sheperd of Fear goes. Aw well.
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2011, 10:34:51 PM »
yeah, no Planar Shepard in this campaign.

Any other ideas for my Druid of terror?
And can 2 people demoralise an enemy for stacking fear effects?
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2011, 12:47:48 AM »
How about dragon wildshape and assume supernatural ability to get the fear aura, although it would probably key off cha instead of wis :(

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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2011, 01:02:23 AM »
Take a level of Contemplative to pick up a domain with Fear or other fear-based spells?
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2011, 10:38:53 AM »
Take a level of Contemplative to pick up a domain with Fear or other fear-based spells?

Sounds good, but I already have contemplative for Time domain.
Damn, this is harder than it sounds.
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2011, 11:18:45 AM »
Take a level of Contemplative to pick up a domain with Fear or other fear-based spells?

Sounds good, but I already have contemplative for Time domain.
Damn, this is harder than it sounds.
There is a cleric spell that lets you swap out domains temporarily. Take a rank in Use Magic Device, and use a scroll/wand/etc of that, assuming your deity has a domain with fear type spells...
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2011, 07:54:22 AM »
There is a cleric spell that lets you swap out domains temporarily. Take a rank in Use Magic Device, and use a scroll/wand/etc of that, assuming your deity has a domain with fear type spells...

Sounds like a good idea. What is the name of this cleric spell? And how do I get Use Magic Device ranks?
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2011, 10:58:39 AM »
There is a cleric spell that lets you swap out domains temporarily. Take a rank in Use Magic Device, and use a scroll/wand/etc of that, assuming your deity has a domain with fear type spells...

Sounds like a good idea. What is the name of this cleric spell? And how do I get Use Magic Device ranks?

Substitute Domain, Complete Champion 128. It has good duration, so just take one rank cross-class - you are unlikely to be casting it in combat; activate your wand in private if your character is sensitive about not getting it to function on the first try.

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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2011, 04:07:15 PM »
Would your DM let you retrain your druid levels to Druidic Avenger?  Gets you Intimidate as a class skill, and then you can take Intimidating Rage as well.
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2011, 01:40:03 PM »
Substitute Domain, Complete Champion 128. It has good duration, so just take one rank cross-class - you are unlikely to be casting it in combat; activate your wand in private if your character is sensitive about not getting it to function on the first try.
Sounds like a neat trick, but we don't use Complete Champion. There seems to be lots of totally over powered stuff in it.

Would your DM let you retrain your druid levels to Druidic Avenger?  Gets you Intimidate as a class skill, and then you can take Intimidating Rage as well.
Now THAT could be a really good idea...
...I'm currently a shifter (race) and swapped my companion for heaps of cool stuff with the alternative class features. And I took a level of Moonspeaker for free augment summoning.
So I'd loose a lot to take the Avenger, but it MIGHT be worth it.

So can two players both demoralise an enemy to stack fear? (Do same effects stack?)
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2011, 03:02:41 PM »
Penalties always stack, but (IIRC) the Rules Compendium says 'no'.
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2011, 11:12:01 PM »
Penalties always stack, but (IIRC) the Rules Compendium says 'no'.

Hmmm... so which is it?
Can two players demoralise?
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2011, 11:48:56 PM »
That's odd that the Rules Compendium says no on that issue. Because, as written, there seems to be no reason two characters couldn't demoralize someone... Hmm...

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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2011, 02:04:41 AM »
Fell Frighten combine with a large area Damage Spells

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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2011, 03:09:50 PM »
I think Rules Compendium merely states you cannot stack on the same type of fear source to get more and more afraid.  You could try to make the case with your DM that you and your ally demoralizing the same guy is actually 2 separate sources of fear.
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Re: Help a Druid pump up the terror
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2011, 03:11:29 PM »
I think Rules Compendium merely states you cannot stack on the same type of fear source to get more and more afraid.  You could try to make the case with your DM that you and your ally demoralizing the same guy is actually 2 separate sources of fear.
And it even makes sense to do so. If having ONE really badass dude against you is scary, TWO is terrifying.
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