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DavidWL

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Re: A Spellhoarding Dragon and her Bodyguard, Please Help
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2011, 07:05:37 AM »
That looks like a good build! :)

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David
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Non-PC activities like out of combat healing should be left to wands and NPCs. It's not fun to play a walking wand of CLW. Likewise, being a combat wall is not a viable PC role. A Wall of Force could do that.

-Sort of, but you left out the important note that a Wall of Force does it better.

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Re: A Spellhoarding Dragon and her Bodyguard, Please Help
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2011, 11:32:03 AM »
Would you mind helping me with her daily spells? I figure  should keep roughly 1/2 her slots prepared at any given time. Battle field control should be her focus I think, with a strong secondary in buffing

Edit: How about this for character 2:

Shifter
Druid 12//totemist 12
F: Shaky, Vulnerable
FF: Sacred vow(?), Vow of poverty(?)
1: Share Soulmeld
3: Companion Spellbond
6: Natural Spell
9: Shifter Savagery
12: Shifter feat

DM lets feats granted from VoP be any you qualify for, so if he takes VoP he'd use the feats for shifter feats. Thoughts?

Edit: dropping two levels of totemist for two levels of monk may very well be worth it for wisdom to AC and improved unarmed strike+ improved grapple. Then taking scorpions grasp for even more grapple fun. Multigrap and greater multigrab would make him a single target lock down.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2011, 09:18:48 AM by geniussavant »
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I see that you want to solve problems. Not problems like, "What is beauty?," because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of 'philosophy'. You want to solve practical problems. F'r instance, how are you gonna stop some big, mean Mother Hubbard from tearing you a structurally superfluous new behind? The answer: Use a gun. And if that don't work? Use more gun.
And if that fails try this


 
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Re: A Spellhoarding Dragon and her Bodyguard, Please Help
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2011, 12:37:41 PM »
While I'm not the greatest with spells, I do have a list I keep - here are some thoughts from that:

Spells worth preparing

1
Charm Person
Obscuring Mists
Silent Image

2
Detect Thoughts
Glitterdust
Minor Image

3
Whispercast
Dispel Magic
Dimension Step

4
Evard's Black Tentacles
Mirror Image, Greater
Ruin Delver's Fortune
Solid Fog
Celerity
Freedom of Movement
Invisibility, Greater
Minor Creation
spike stones
Thunderlance

5
Draconic Polymorph
Arcane Fusion
Dimension Shuffle
Wall of Force

6
Starmantle
Antimagic Field
Power Word: Nauseate

Spells that you can recall if needed (either typically non-combat, or in a buff sequence when you know what you face)
1
Alarm

2
Rope Trick
Close Wounds
Heroics
Heroism

3
Mass Conviction
Spark of Life
Anticipate Teleportation (or greater)
Arcane Sight
Clairaudience/Clairvoyance
Greater Mage Armor
Greater Mightly Wallop
Phantom Steed
Protection From Energy

4
Ethereal Mount
Death Ward
Sheltered Vitality
Contingent Energy resistance
Death Ward
Greater Scying
Voice of the Dragon

5
Permanent Image
Persistent Image

6
Reflective Disguise, mass
nixie's grace

It would probably be useful to prepare a few lists of spells for easy reference:
* spells to prepare
* spells for all-day buffing (1 hr/lvl)
* spells for buffing before dungeons (10min/lvl)
* spells for buffing before combat when you have warning (1 min/lvl)
* specialty spells that you'll often use, but won't prepare

.... or some such.

Best,
David
« Last Edit: July 29, 2011, 12:39:34 PM by DavidWL »
Some Cool Quotes:  [spoiler]
Quote from: unknown
Non-PC activities like out of combat healing should be left to wands and NPCs. It's not fun to play a walking wand of CLW. Likewise, being a combat wall is not a viable PC role. A Wall of Force could do that.

-Sort of, but you left out the important note that a Wall of Force does it better.

Quote from: Runestar / skydragonknight
The most powerful character is the one that you actually get to play.

Quote from: Operation Shoestring
I often have to remind people not to underrate divination.  The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
[/spoiler]
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Re: A Spellhoarding Dragon and her Bodyguard, Please Help
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2011, 01:56:30 PM »
Shifter
Druid 12//totemist 12
F: Shaky, Vulnerable
FF: Sacred vow(?), Vow of poverty(?)
1: Share Soulmeld
3: Companion Spellbond
6: Natural Spell
9: Shifter Savagery
12: Shifter feat

DM lets feats granted from VoP be any you qualify for, so if he takes VoP he'd use the feats for shifter feats. Thoughts?

Edit: dropping two levels of totemist for two levels of monk may very well be worth it for wisdom to AC and improved unarmed strike+ improved grapple. Then taking scorpions grasp for even more grapple fun. Multigrap and greater multigrab would make him a single target lock down.

Hmm.

Random thoughts:
- Shifter Savagery ... do you have a way of raging?
- Cool about vow of poverty ... makes a mediocre feat pretty good.  Give anyone fighter feat chains, really trick out a shadowcraft mage / metamagic specialist, etc.

I don't know much about Druids, Totemists, or Grapplers, so I'm afraid I'm unlikely to be much help with this build.

Best,
David
Some Cool Quotes:  [spoiler]
Quote from: unknown
Non-PC activities like out of combat healing should be left to wands and NPCs. It's not fun to play a walking wand of CLW. Likewise, being a combat wall is not a viable PC role. A Wall of Force could do that.

-Sort of, but you left out the important note that a Wall of Force does it better.

Quote from: Runestar / skydragonknight
The most powerful character is the one that you actually get to play.

Quote from: Operation Shoestring
I often have to remind people not to underrate divination.  The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
[/spoiler]
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geniussavant

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Re: A Spellhoarding Dragon and her Bodyguard, Please Help
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2011, 02:17:09 PM »
About shifter savagery, woops. I'll rectify the build ASAP.

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I don't know much about Druids, Totemists, or Grapplers, so I'm afraid I'm unlikely to be much help with this build.

Unfortunatly, neither do I...

Edit: Dropping a single level of totemist for the hd and using the free la, I can add the werebadger template to him for unlimited rage that still allows me to cast still.
« Last Edit: July 29, 2011, 04:26:05 PM by geniussavant »
[spoiler]
I see that you want to solve problems. Not problems like, "What is beauty?," because that would fall within the purview of your conundrums of 'philosophy'. You want to solve practical problems. F'r instance, how are you gonna stop some big, mean Mother Hubbard from tearing you a structurally superfluous new behind? The answer: Use a gun. And if that don't work? Use more gun.
And if that fails try this


 
[/spoiler]