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assume supernatural ability for a psicrystal?
« on: July 11, 2011, 11:51:48 PM »
any ideas to how i can do it?

the only thought i could think of is using psychic reformation when it's under the effect of Metamorphosis, Greater.

my goal is to turn it turn into a phasm and from THERE, turn it into multiple dragons per turn, using quickened/empowered breaths.

EDIT

ok, no love for the subject lol.

so here's what i went for instead:

dragonborn human
dominant ideal (conflict) Ardent 15/Warshaper5

feats
-practiced manifester
-quicken breath
-heighten breath
-assume supernatural ability (breath weapon)
-assume supernatural ability (alternate form)
-twin power
-expanded knowledge (fission)

assumption on how dominant ideal works:  takes -2 off the pp cost for EACH use of a metapsionic feat and multiple applications of the same feat are possible.

*IF* those assumptions are correct, then this is what could happen:

-fissioned selves turn into phasms
-flashmorph to make alternate form a move action
-manifest twinned (*3) haste for 4 extra move actions (3 more for the fissioned form)

so you get 6 move/standard actions to shapeshift and quicken/heighten breath weapons and your fissioned self gets 5 actions.  11 breath weapons to daze, stun, sleep, weaken, NEGATIVE LEVELS, rust, disintegrate, or just blast to your hearts' content.
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Re: assume supernatural ability for a psicrystal?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2011, 11:58:52 AM »
Uh... Dragonborn humans lose everything that makes humans good (feat and skill points).

And as for Assume Supernatural Ability, just toss its level-up stat bonuses into Wis, and/or give it a stat boosting item. Then toss on a psychoactive skin of proteus.
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Re: assume supernatural ability for a psicrystal?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2011, 05:23:27 PM »
wasn't attached to the HUMAN part.

and the skin of proteus DID come to mind, didn't know if items counted for feat prerequisites.  but if it does...then i can probably pull off 16 breath attacks with the erudite (64 negative levels anyone?)

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Re: assume supernatural ability for a psicrystal?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2011, 06:28:19 PM »
Ardent's Substitute Powers acf ... most likely eliminates the need for the EK feat.
Can you dip Erudite 1 to free up more feat slots ?



Metamorphic Transfer feat can sub for Assume Supernatural feat,
and is superior in some applications. Maybe not here, because you want to use it all the time.
Psicrystal can get an ML via one Improved Psicrystal feat on the Ardent side,
or a [host] feat or something it is Metamorphed into.

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Re: assume supernatural ability for a psicrystal?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2011, 08:08:02 PM »
wasn't attached to the HUMAN part.
Use a lesser planetouched as the base race.  When the only things you keep are stat mods, make sure they're good ones.
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Re: assume supernatural ability for a psicrystal?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2011, 08:53:47 PM »
wasn't attached to the HUMAN part.
Use a lesser planetouched as the base race.  When the only things you keep are stat mods, make sure they're good ones.
Well, you also keep type and subtype, so make sure THOSE are good, too.

That's why warforged make such incredible dragonborn. 90% of their greatness is tied to their [living construct] subtype. And 5% of the other 10 is tied to their body armor, which is as much a liability as it is a boon.
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Re: assume supernatural ability for a psicrystal?
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2011, 09:47:06 PM »
wasn't attached to the HUMAN part.
Use a lesser planetouched as the base race.  When the only things you keep are stat mods, make sure they're good ones.
Well, you also keep type and subtype, so make sure THOSE are good, too.

That's why warforged make such incredible dragonborn. 90% of their greatness is tied to their [living construct] subtype. And 5% of the other 10 is tied to their body armor, which is as much a liability as it is a boon.
And which you get back anyway if you take Adamantine Body.
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Re: assume supernatural ability for a psicrystal?
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2011, 09:48:26 PM »
wasn't attached to the HUMAN part.
Use a lesser planetouched as the base race.  When the only things you keep are stat mods, make sure they're good ones.
Well, you also keep type and subtype, so make sure THOSE are good, too.

That's why warforged make such incredible dragonborn. 90% of their greatness is tied to their [living construct] subtype. And 5% of the other 10 is tied to their body armor, which is as much a liability as it is a boon.
And which you get back anyway if you take Adamantine Body.
True. And even if you don't, it saves a feat when you consider that it requires a feat to remove that armor (which is a crock).
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Re: assume supernatural ability for a psicrystal?
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2011, 10:54:02 PM »
i think i spoke too soon about the 16 breath attacks...i keep forgetting that "alternate form" isn't the same ability as Change Shape, and therefore, won't qualify for Quick Change (wanted an alternate way to get move action shapeshifting...or even free action if we stack Flashmorph).

still, the suggestions are VERY appreciated and give me some things to think about.

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Re: assume supernatural ability for a psicrystal?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2011, 04:25:44 PM »
ok, if we use Substitute Powers to get Fission, then i can replace that with Metapower (twin haste) to make the augmentation only 2 pp.

so that gives 9 extra move actions while the fissioned self gets 8...grand total of 21 breath attacks.  If we also use the ACF to grab schism, we can get 23

so if we use 11-headed cryo/pyrohydras for damage that's 529d6 damage.  and if we use shadow dragons we could throw down 92 negative levels, which i think is kinda cool :p

i hope i did this right, lol