Author Topic: (3.5)anyway to max luck bonus to... well... everything? (Read 8251 times)

miz redavni · « **on:** June 23, 2011, 04:32:24 AM »

I have a friend that wants to make the luckest guy in d&d and I'm not even sure if its possible or where to start.

Ever seen kung fu hustle? Remember the drunken style fighting guy? One point he's surronded by 2 people. One in front and one behind. The guy in front goes to punch him but he falls over and hits his buddy on the other side.

Your in a pitch black cave and you don't have anyway of seeing. There's to ways to go but you don't know that, you stumble your way out like it was nothing, little did you know if you would of gone the other way your would of been slapped in the face with an orb of dectruction.

He wants to be that kind of guy.

So far all I've found(haven't REALLY started looking yet) is seer feat on pg 90 of the dragon compedenium.

If I could get anymore help that would be great

Tr011 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 23, 2011, 05:39:07 AM »

Quote from: miz redavni on June 23, 2011, 04:32:24 AM

Ever seen kung fu hustle? Remember the drunken style fighting guy? One point he's surronded by 2 people. One in front and one behind. The guy in front goes to punch him but he falls over and hits his buddy on the other side.

Drunken Master fills this role xD But I think you want more. (just remembered: isn't it said god watches the drunken ones...?)

In races of destiny are some things to get lucky. Also check out the Luck Feats of Complete Scoundrel. Beeing a Human should help also since it fits thematically and you'll need the bonus feat.

miz redavni · « **Reply #2 on:** June 23, 2011, 06:14:04 AM »

Quote from: Tr011 on June 23, 2011, 05:39:07 AM

Quote from: miz redavni on June 23, 2011, 04:32:24 AM
Ever seen kung fu hustle? Remember the drunken style fighting guy? One point he's surronded by 2 people. One in front and one behind. The guy in front goes to punch him but he falls over and hits his buddy on the other side.
Drunken Master fills this role xD But I think you want more. (just remembered: isn't it said god watches the drunken ones...?)

In races of destiny are some things to get lucky. Also check out the Luck Feats of Complete Scoundrel. Beeing a Human should help also since it fits thematically and you'll need the bonus feat.

yea i told him about drunken master but he said he wants high ac to dodge everthing, high saves, high damage(he doesnt care to much for being effective in combat. this just might be a rp only character), everything through luck bonus. i already know hes going to have to be a feat monkey. thats why im trying to findout if its at all possible to do it.

ok cool. ill look look at those feats

Lycanthromancer · « **Reply #3 on:** June 23, 2011, 06:16:36 AM »

Quote from: Tr011 on June 23, 2011, 05:39:07 AM

(just remembered: isn't it said god watches the drunken ones...?)

They do tend to die with frequency.

Tr011 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 23, 2011, 07:15:51 AM »

Drunken master indeed get high ac, saves and damage if you multiclass it right. Remember the Martial-monk variant to get ANY fighter bonus feat and keep reflex+will high. AC via monk is a good start, too. One level of Fist of the Forest (CC 81) adds Con to AC when unarmored. The requirements are easy for Drunken Master. Getting two more levels in it improves UAS damage to 1d10 (and thereby improvised weapons, too) but the fluff of the class is a bit strange.

2 levels of swordsage add wis to AC, too. And it gives some nice maneuvers and stances, also Ini-boost is always good.

miz redavni · « **Reply #5 on:** June 23, 2011, 07:28:46 AM »

Quote from: Tr011 on June 23, 2011, 07:15:51 AM

Drunken master indeed get high ac, saves and damage if you multiclass it right. Remember the Martial-monk variant to get ANY fighter bonus feat and keep reflex+will high. AC via monk is a good start, too. One level of Fist of the Forest (CC 81) adds Con to AC when unarmored. The requirements are easy for Drunken Master. Getting two more levels in it improves UAS damage to 1d10 (and thereby improvised weapons, too) but the fluff of the class is a bit strange.

2 levels of swordsage add wis to AC, too. And it gives some nice maneuvers and stances, also Ini-boost is always good.

Is any of that through luck bonus?

JohnnyMayHymn · « **Reply #6 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:05:10 AM »

luck bonus? ... they don't stack and seem to be mostly 1/day stuff...

Petruchio · « **Reply #7 on:** June 23, 2011, 10:47:50 AM »

Custom magic items allow you to replace the type of bonus for 1.5 of the market price, IIRC. Enhancement bonuses are most common, but you should be able to replace it with luck bonuses for the increase in price. Consulting with you DM is essential though. On the bright side, it will make him into an item heavy character, rather than a feat heavy character.

drako_beoulve · « **Reply #8 on:** June 23, 2011, 12:43:58 PM »

Quote from: miz redavni on June 23, 2011, 04:32:24 AM

I have a friend that wants to make the luckest guy in d&d and I'm not even sure if its possible or where to start.

Ever seen kung fu hustle? Remember the drunken style fighting guy? One point he's surronded by 2 people. One in front and one behind. The guy in front goes to punch him but he falls over and hits his buddy on the other side.

That was not Drunken Master style, that was Tai Chi Chuan flowing style, If you put attention, at the final of this fight, he draws a Ying-Yang in the ground with the body of the two attackers.

PhaedrusXY · « **Reply #9 on:** June 23, 2011, 12:54:29 PM »

I think mostly you want the ability to re-roll things. That far and above will let him just happen to stumble out through the right tunnel (re-roll survival, etc), survive blasts that should have killed him (re-rolled saving throws), etc. Couple this with a way to dodge attacks somehow (Drunken Master), and you're getting close to what your friend wants.

A Binder binding the vestige Balam can re-roll a d20 once every 5 rounds, which is just about the best thing in the game for re-rolls. Add on a few Luck feats, magic items (that let you re-roll), and the Luck domain, and you can re-roll during your 5 round "down-time" if needed, too.

So I think some kind of Binder/Monk/Drunken Master might be the way to go.

archangel.arcanis · « **Reply #10 on:** June 23, 2011, 01:04:21 PM »

I was thinking rerolls too. That is the ultimate in luck.

miz redavni · « **Reply #11 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:18:45 PM »

Quote from: JohnnyMayHymn on June 23, 2011, 10:05:10 AM

luck bonus? ... they don't stack and seem to be mostly 1/day stuff...

Sweet. Ill take a look at those. Actually yes. He wants to be a luck bonus based character.

He wants to play it because it sounds fun. It may not be good but it sounds fun.

Ever play a really crappy class? Like worst then tier 5 and not max? It can be very fun. The whole struggle to see if you can do the most basic of stuff. I played a serial killer who was a shugenja. That was fun. Just about every role was a save or die. It was really exciting. Even more so because. My character had a need to kill more people. It put me in many interesting cituations.

Sorry... just woke up... oh yes.... it has to be a luck bonus based character. Which you can see why I need help.

altpersona · « **Reply #12 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:26:00 PM »

yes, played several fighters.

fun is not tier dependent.

Lycanthromancer · « **Reply #13 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:31:40 PM »

Quote from: altpersona on June 23, 2011, 09:26:00 PM

yes, played several fighters.

fun is not tier dependent.

Not entirely true, depending on the person.

I don't have fun with T4s and below, unless it's some weirdly wacky build that subverts the tier entirely.

altpersona · « **Reply #14 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:43:41 PM »

im sorry

hope you find a way to fix that.

Lycanthromancer · « **Reply #15 on:** June 23, 2011, 09:51:14 PM »

Quote from: altpersona on June 23, 2011, 09:43:41 PM

im sorry

hope you find a way to fix that.

That's where the wackiness comes in.

I mean, monk/kensai for across-the-battlefield body slams? Infested with Chickens commoner? Huzzah!

skydragonknight · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2011, 07:27:48 AM »

Wand of Improvisation (Spell Compendium), CL 20.

edit: posted hurriedly at work and botched the source.

Widow · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2011, 10:28:51 PM »

The Destiny Domain in Races of Destiny has a level 9 spell that lets you roll twice for everything and take the better result. Of course this takes high level Divine Metmagic Persistent tricks to have this running continously.

ninjarabbit · « **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2011, 12:57:45 PM »

I would recommend a level of cloistered cleric for the luck and pride (reroll a 1 on a saving throw) domain abilities.

Heck you could probably make a lucky cleric character. cloisteredcleric5/fortune's friend4/divine oracle2/contemplative6/x3. Pick up a couple more domains that can add to your 'luck' like maybe travel and you also have some extra luck feats, slippery mind which is another reroll ability, and effectively evasion on full armor.

Phoenix00 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 26, 2011, 12:14:25 PM »

Go Artificer or Binder and do tons of luck blades.

(Binders can be very good craftsman with the Astaroth vestige see here.)
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070307a

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http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/magicWeapons.htm#luckBlade

If your DM will allow you to make the same weapon as +1 instead of +2 the cost becomes 16,060 gp. Crafting the item makes it 8030 gp and 642.4 xp. Throw on the artisan feats and sudden the cost becomes 6022 gp and 481.8 xp for each luckblade crafted (with +1 instead of +2)

It does require a caster level or binder level of 17 though. So you will need to boost your caster level/binder level (if you go binder may I recommend bloodlines.)

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070307a

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