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3.0 material that wasn't mentioned in 3.5 is still valid (as they're the same edition after all, otherwise 3.5 would've been called 4th edition), so it still applies as the rule was carefully explained in the Epic Handbook that has no counterpart in 3.5.
so it still applies as the rule was carefully explained in the Epic Handbook that has no counterpart in 3.5.
On the other hand, I don't see any RAW way of controlling who you attract as followers (and the rules say they're "generally low-level NPCs"). You only explicitly get to pick your cohort's race, class, and alignment.
Or you could just be a cleric of an ideal. Like, physics and say that the domain choices reflect potential and kinetic energy. Plus, where other clerics say "For Pelor," "For Nerull," or "For Crom?" You get to say, "FOR SCIENCE!" *fanfare*
I know your game, you just want a magical Amazon.com to knock off those good ol' honest magic shops run by polite, old wizards!
Quote from: ImperatorK on August 11, 2011, 10:19:47 AMUse Iron Heart Surge on the sun. That'll teach him to use fluff as RAW.Damn you! You totally ruined my build that was all about getting epic far shot early and throwing my enemies into the sun!
Use Iron Heart Surge on the sun. That'll teach him to use fluff as RAW.
I don't know if "Tiers" is entirely appropriate to Leadership.Levels 1-5 ... Leadership doesn't exist, so it's below Tier 6. More like unrate-able.Level 6+ ... You are down one feat. Big deal, assuming you took a Tier 1 Cohort.The combo of you down 1 feat, and a Tier 1 with minor limits, down 1 full spell level;I think the cohort catches up to all but the best of Tier 3s by levels 7 or 8.That's right around level 10 for you.I wonder how this compares to Summoning for standard Wiz or Sorc.Level 11-15 ... No real cost to you, you can get feats if you need them, and Cohort is near Tier 2r all by itself.Level 16-20 ... Cohort now solid Tier 2, should be some serious synergy going on by now.So ... 0 + Tier 5 up to 3 + 3 or 2 + 2 + the back of a waiter's order =~~= average Tier 3 after you get it.Perhaps Tier 4 if including the 5 level dead zone.
Quote from: The_Mad_Linguist on June 16, 2011, 11:30:03 PMOn the other hand, I don't see any RAW way of controlling who you attract as followers (and the rules say they're "generally low-level NPCs"). You only explicitly get to pick your cohort's race, class, and alignment.Not even that. You can try to recruit a specific class/race/alignment but it's up to the DM if there will be such an NPC available to recruit.
Depends. Leadership gives better action economy, but your WBL will have to be divided betweeen two characters. So anything with low gear-dependency is a win with Leadership while high gear-dependency classes will suffer quite a bit.
Huge amounts of people are fuckwits. That doesn't mean that fuckwit is a valid lifestyle.
As a general rule, murdering people and taking their stuff is pretty much superior to breaking their stuff, murdering them, then not having any stuff to take.
Oh I'll make a party. I'll make a party so hard... I'll make a party that makes you feel so awkward downstairs. You'll see the party and only be able to respond, "Oh yeah baby."
Quote from: oslecamo on June 16, 2011, 10:50:42 PM3.0 material that wasn't mentioned in 3.5 is still valid (as they're the same edition after all, otherwise 3.5 would've been called 4th edition), so it still applies as the rule was carefully explained in the Epic Handbook that has no counterpart in 3.5. The 3.5 Leadership rules, found in the PHB and DMG, supersede the 3.0 rules. Since there is in fact an update (a new printing of the feat), the old rule is not valid. Furthermore, note that the Legendary Leader example in Heroes of Battle does indeed have all Monks as followers (that's the only example character with leadership and spelled out followers I could find).JaronK