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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1000 on: July 31, 2011, 11:40:40 PM »
This one for sure!

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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1001 on: July 31, 2011, 11:41:39 PM »
I'm going to be really miffed if this thread doesn't auto-lock, or if someone posts after me.
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
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My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
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Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1002 on: July 31, 2011, 11:44:41 PM »
Dibs on the last post!
Nah I'll get it

We just went over post 50!

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« Last Edit: July 31, 2011, 11:46:14 PM by Mixster »
Monks are pretty much the best designed class ever.

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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1003 on: July 31, 2011, 11:47:17 PM »
Dibs on the last post!
Nah I'll get it

We just went over post 50!

"I don't see any GOD up here?"

NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo.......!
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
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shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1004 on: July 31, 2011, 11:59:26 PM »
I'm going to be really miffed if this thread doesn't auto-lock, or if someone posts after me.
I'll try not to.

If I were a mod, I'd lock the thread after I posted :p
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[spoiler]Tiers break down into who has spellcasting more than anything else due to spells being better than anything else in the game.
6: Skill based. Commoner, Expert, Samurai.
5: Mundane warrior. Barbarian, Fighter, Monk.
4: Partial casters. Adapt, Hexblade, Paladin, Ranger, Spelltheif.
3: Focused casters. Bard, Beguiler, Dread Necromancer, Martial Adapts, Warmage.
2: Full casters. Favored Soul, Psion, Sorcerer, Wu Jen.
1: Elitists. Artificer, Cleric, Druid, Wizard.
0: Gods. StP Erudite, Illthid Savant, Pun-Pun, Rocks fall & you die.
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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1005 on: August 01, 2011, 12:04:32 AM »
The thread doesn't auto-lock.  The mods tend not to bother, either, since we usually have a new thread started before the 51st page comes up.

That said, PLEASE DON'T start a new topic.  This thread will never produce anything productive to anyone ever.

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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1006 on: August 01, 2011, 12:07:28 AM »
The thread doesn't auto-lock.  The mods tend not to bother, either, since we usually have a new thread started before the 51st page comes up.

That said, PLEASE DON'T start a new topic.  This thread will never produce anything productive to anyone ever.
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[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1007 on: August 01, 2011, 12:57:58 AM »
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!!!!!!

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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1008 on: August 01, 2011, 01:10:28 AM »
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW!!!!!!
He's sitting next to me on my couch, wagging his tail.

Yes, I AM mildly dyslexic. Why do you ask?
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]

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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1009 on: August 01, 2011, 04:49:51 AM »
(edit: also the DMG clearly distinguishes throughout between player characters/characters -terms used interchangeably and non-player characters).
Quote from: Page 138 of the DMG
Highest-Level NPC in the Community for Each Class

Use the following tables to determine the highest-level character in a given class for a given community.
Quote from: Page 128 of the DMG
NPC Attitudes
In general, you run an NPC just as a player would run a PC. You take whatever actions the character would take, assuming the action is possible. That's why it's important to determine an NPC's general outlook and characteristics ahead of time if possible, so you know how to play the character properly.

Fleshing out NPCs

...You should strive to make many of the NPCs you use in your game memorable characters whom the PCs will either like or dislike depending on how you play them.

Much though I hate to prolong this argument, the DMG does no such thing.



Hm. I guess I have been wrong here. So the DMG does use the two terms interchangeably.
Does this now mean chicken wights without fists that are not controlled by an adept are a good proof that the adept is superior to the monk? I do not think so...:)

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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1010 on: August 01, 2011, 05:09:01 AM »
How many ways do monks have of starting a wightocalypse, hmm?
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1011 on: August 01, 2011, 05:18:34 AM »
How many ways do monks have of starting a wightocalypse, hmm?

The monk could be hit by an empowered maximized twinned split rayed enervation.
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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1012 on: August 01, 2011, 05:24:55 AM »
How many ways do monks have of starting a wightocalypse, hmm?

The monk could be hit by an empowered maximized twinned split rayed enervation.
But with his massively pitiful Wis (from pumping Cha and Int), he'll have an equally massively pitiful AC to dodge your puny enervation!
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]

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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1013 on: August 01, 2011, 05:27:47 AM »
Aye, we all know how unlikely it is, but every good undead apocalypse needs a Patient Zero.
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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1014 on: August 01, 2011, 05:29:58 AM »
How many ways do monks have of starting a wightocalypse, hmm?

The monk could be hit by an empowered maximized twinned split rayed enervation.
But only if the monk is a player character.

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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1015 on: August 01, 2011, 05:33:40 AM »
How many ways do monks have of starting a wightocalypse, hmm?

The monk could be hit by an empowered maximized twinned split rayed enervation.
But only if the monk is a player character.
And not if it's not played by Giacomo, since his monks are so very not durable and not impossible to kill.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2011, 05:35:27 AM by Lycanthromancer »
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
______________________________________
[/spoiler]I'm a writer. These are my stories. Some are even SFW! (Warning: Mostly Gay.)
My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
[spoiler]
+1 Lycanthromancer
Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
 :D
shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
[/spoiler]


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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1017 on: August 01, 2011, 06:22:40 AM »
We are all trolls now.

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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1018 on: August 01, 2011, 06:35:09 AM »
That would explain why I never seem to die of slashing, piercing or bludgeoning damage.
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Re: Adept vs monk: the final nail in the coffin
« Reply #1019 on: August 01, 2011, 02:11:45 PM »
Psh, this is optimization. I am not a troll.

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Tiers explained in 8 sentences. With examples!
[spoiler]Tiers break down into who has spellcasting more than anything else due to spells being better than anything else in the game.
6: Skill based. Commoner, Expert, Samurai.
5: Mundane warrior. Barbarian, Fighter, Monk.
4: Partial casters. Adapt, Hexblade, Paladin, Ranger, Spelltheif.
3: Focused casters. Bard, Beguiler, Dread Necromancer, Martial Adapts, Warmage.
2: Full casters. Favored Soul, Psion, Sorcerer, Wu Jen.
1: Elitists. Artificer, Cleric, Druid, Wizard.
0: Gods. StP Erudite, Illthid Savant, Pun-Pun, Rocks fall & you die.
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