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Unofficial Errata?
« on: April 23, 2011, 08:46:29 PM »
I think I saw something like this before, or at least a mention of it.

Wasn't there some attempt to create fan errata for 3.5 books? (particularly stuff like Tome of Battle) If no one has a clue what I'm talking about, want to start such a project?
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2011, 11:44:03 PM »
Quote from: Prime32 on April 23, 2011, 08:46:29 PM
I think I saw something like this before, or at least a mention of it.

Wasn't there some attempt to create fan errata for 3.5 books? (particularly stuff like Tome of Battle) If no one has a clue what I'm talking about, want to start such a project?

We mentioned several times in the past (back when 4E's PH2 was still in design), but the only thing I've seen like that was on GiantITP.
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2011, 08:39:50 PM »
Quote from: Prime32 on April 23, 2011, 08:46:29 PM
I think I saw something like this before, or at least a mention of it.

Wasn't there some attempt to create fan errata for 3.5 books? (particularly stuff like Tome of Battle) If no one has a clue what I'm talking about, want to start such a project?
[/quote[Hell I argue for intent and balance rather than anything else. I'll help who ever wants to lead the project but I'm calling not it on leading it.
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2011, 04:02:11 PM »
I'd toss an idea or two that way, but don't have time to dedicate for my own projects.  :mad

Mainly tagging this to follow.  :D
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2011, 04:07:51 PM »
I might help a little but how do you imagine this? I reserve a handbook and... work on fixing the problems within?
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2011, 06:22:46 PM »
Quote from: AleksanderTheGreat on April 25, 2011, 04:07:51 PM
I might help a little but how do you imagine this? I reserve a handbook and... work on fixing the problems within?

A handbook-style errata would be the best way (reserve 2 posts/mechanical chapter of the book to be errataed), that way we can comment/debate the errata (though we may need a separate thread for the actual debate, to prevent it from cluttering up the main thread).
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2011, 10:24:48 PM »
A board for this would be possible. Mostly for a list of the finished works.

Would it be okay to include the content of the existing errata?


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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2011, 10:27:39 PM »
One of the sad things is that the extent of these errata would be limited to the users of this board. If you simply wish to make a load of houserules that are later implemented in your games, I think there already is a houserule board. Actually, wouldn't that go hand in hand with this one in any case?
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2011, 10:34:08 PM »
Quote from: Tshern on April 25, 2011, 10:27:39 PM
One of the sad things is that the extent of these errata would be limited to the users of this board. If you simply wish to make a load of houserules that are later implemented in your games, I think there already is a houserule board. Actually, wouldn't that go hand in hand with this one in any case?
Well, this is different. Nothing along the lines of giving the monk flight and full BAB, just clarifying whether Iron Heart Surge can extinguish suns. Balance tweaking comes only in places where the rules are ambiguous (such as whether or not VoP requires your bonus feats to be exalted after lv1).
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2011, 10:47:39 PM »
I am still not sure how that is different. Clarifying that Monks are proficient with their hands is a houserule and that is hardly as game changing as the examples you cited.
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2011, 10:50:16 PM »
Quote from: Tshern on April 25, 2011, 10:47:39 PM
I am still not sure how that is different. Clarifying that Monks are proficient with their hands is a houserule and that is hardly as game changing as the examples you cited.
The difference is the scale.  Houserules typically alter a few specific things.  Eratta alters large numbers of things slightly so as to clarify rules interactions, though not usually the functionality (as much).
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2011, 10:55:04 PM »
Sorry, but this really presses my buttons: Erratum, errata is the plural.

I see your point snakeman830, but it still seems to me that it would be appropriate to lump this together with rest of the houserules. Maybe it is just my compulsive need to keep places tidy and in order.
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2011, 11:55:29 PM »
Quote from: Tshern on April 25, 2011, 10:55:04 PM
Sorry, but this really presses my buttons: Erratum, errata is the plural.

I see your point snakeman830, but it still seems to me that it would be appropriate to lump this together with rest of the houserules. Maybe it is just my compulsive need to keep places tidy and in order.

A subfora in house rules then?
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 01:26:09 PM »
Quote from: Sinfire Titan on April 25, 2011, 11:55:29 PM
Quote from: Tshern on April 25, 2011, 10:55:04 PM
Sorry, but this really presses my buttons: Erratum, errata is the plural.

I see your point snakeman830, but it still seems to me that it would be appropriate to lump this together with rest of the houserules. Maybe it is just my compulsive need to keep places tidy and in order.

A subfora in house rules then?
Naturally.
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Tiers explained in 8 sentences. With examples!
[spoiler]Tiers break down into who has spellcasting more than anything else due to spells being better than anything else in the game.
6: Skill based. Commoner, Expert, Samurai.
5: Mundane warrior. Barbarian, Fighter, Monk.
4: Partial casters. Adapt, Hexblade, Paladin, Ranger, Spelltheif.
3: Focused casters. Bard, Beguiler, Dread Necromancer, Martial Adapts, Warmage.
2: Full casters. Favored Soul, Psion, Sorcerer, Wu Jen.
1: Elitists. Artificer, Cleric, Druid, Wizard.
0: Gods. StP Erudite, Illthid Savant, Pun-Pun, Rocks fall & you die.
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2011, 05:59:01 PM »
Quote from: Sinfire Titan on April 25, 2011, 11:55:29 PM
Quote from: Tshern on April 25, 2011, 10:55:04 PM
Sorry, but this really presses my buttons: Erratum, errata is the plural.

A subfora [...]

I see what you did there.  :eh
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2011, 06:00:43 PM »
So did we.
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2011, 01:49:17 PM »
So, I've started a sub-board in House Rules. If anyone wants to do some organising/indexing, I'll give you mod privileges.
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2011, 01:51:37 PM »
Quote from: Prime32 on May 10, 2011, 01:49:17 PM
So, I've started a sub-board in House Rules. If anyone wants to do some organising/indexing, I'll give you mod privileges.

I'll take care of the modding for that forum if you don't mind.
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2011, 02:21:40 PM »
I added a link to the subforum to the Handy Links. What do you think, should I start indexing the threads of that subforum to the Handy Links as well? Unless I am mistaken, there is still a post I reserved for future use that could be utilised for that.
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Re: Unofficial Errata?
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2011, 05:51:29 PM »
Eh, I'd save that for when we have an index of completed errata up.
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The tier system in a nutshell:
[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]
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