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mthor

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Re: Suggest a Vestige to go with Zceryll!
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2011, 05:54:02 PM »
Don't forget once you get to EBL 18 and can use Summon Monster 9 there are summons to get you an at will 9th level sorceror who can choose cleric spells or a 12 lvl wizard. :) (Coautal MMI, Ursinal Guardinal from BoED) With the right build you can get that at Character Lvl 14. (Blood lines +2, + Favored Vestige + Ipos)
How did you get bloodlines +2 because how I read it is with a major bloodline you get +3 EBL per class that grants soul binding. With KotSS and Scion of Dalion that's, unless you are going with a, to quote BP, web-sane version,+9.  If you can't break a binder/bloodline then you're not trying.
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Re: Suggest a Vestige to go with Zceryll!
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2011, 05:57:13 PM »
DM would only allow me to take the one with 2 bloodlines, and at the time I took them I only had Binder and KotSS levels. hence only +2 on top of my character levels, with + 9 you could do it at the level you get Zcerryl. . .

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Re: Suggest a Vestige to go with Zceryll!
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2011, 12:50:50 PM »
Well vestiges should help your build - so more info.
What can he do? (feats/powers/level so on).


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Re: Suggest a Vestige to go with Zceryll!
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2011, 12:56:38 PM »
I guess his build can do most anything if my instincts are correct.

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Re: Suggest a Vestige to go with Zceryll!
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2011, 01:04:48 PM »
I guess his build can do most anything if my instincts are correct.

Since it's Kell, I think you're right.
The dude's got a rep, after all. ;)
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Re: Suggest a Vestige to go with Zceryll!
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2011, 06:31:18 PM »
BTW Shadowhunter was the one who I found the vistige info page . So I suppose I should cite him or something
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Re: Suggest a Vestige to go with Zceryll!
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2011, 07:26:50 PM »
BTW Shadowhunter was the one who I found the vistige info page . So I suppose I should cite him or something
<== Wasn't paying attention in school during talks about piracy.

Well then I should mention L. Palermo who actually did the work, as well as J.W. Ogle, as we all know would be jameswilliamogle and who I for some reason always read as "James William mogle" after the creature from Final Fantasy.  ;)
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Quote from: Runestar
the most effective optimization is the one you can actually get away with.  :smirk

Quote from: Vinom
(A group of nerds are called a murder because like crows we are anti-social, like shiny things, and often squack at each other over nothing for hours)

I often have to remind people not to underrate divination.  The ability to effectively metagame without actually metagaming beats the ability to set things on fire more times than not.
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Binder? You're Welcome

Zceryll makes Binders go from tier 3 to tier 2.
Cagemarrow is a Genius

Before giving the advice that build X would be better of with Fist of the Forest, take a long, good look at Primal Living. Twice.