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Indigestible
« on: April 06, 2011, 10:32:53 AM »
Hello, I want to create a character that fights against the swallowing creatures. The character knows to fight in the cramped spaces.

Material authorized : official sourcebooks WoTC (dragon magazines forbidden)

Idea : Cavestalker PrC from Drow of the Underdark

The character will track this kind of creature.
0) Track feat ? knowledge skills ?

1)I search class abilities, feats or a prestige class that gives a resistance against crushing damage and acid damage or other type of damage.

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2) Do a creature take damage or not if a character exit by the gizzard ?
Did it count on the total hit points ?

The tactic for the character will be to jump in the "mouth" of the creature.
3) An idea for this manoeuver ? the rules ?

4) The character could tame this creature or obtain as companion animal. Is it possible ?
The creature will swallow the opponent and the character inside the creature will fight against the opponent in a narrow space.

Thanks for your future answer.

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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 05:14:33 PM »
Any class with Dimension door and an immovable rod will slow down a swallow whole creature by a hell of alot i think.

Baring that Leviathan hunter prestige class in stormwrack offers some nice bonuses vs big nasties.

1) Acid resistance could be obtained via template (like half black/green dragon has immuninty)

2) In my campaigns i rule it does but thats off the top of my head may not be a real rule

3)With a high enough escape artist check you could probably wiggle in there. Otherwise DDoor could get you in

4) maybe not even needed to go inside just have a psion friend with trans dimensional power and a ring of Xray vision look inside and blast it.





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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 05:40:36 PM »
This is a very narrow focus, and you are better off just focusing on Grappling (same effect, much wider application).

That said, Totemist 20=Grappling Awesomeness (and you can get Acid Resistance).


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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2011, 05:52:29 PM »
If you wear armor, get armor spikes.  If you go for a spellcaster, see if you can get effects like Fire Shield or Babau Slime (and make sure they trigger on grapples-- may require a DM ruling on spells that specifically trigger on melee attacks).  Since you can't always control which party member gets grappled, you definitely need access to Benign Transposition.

Even if this is your specialty, make sure you can fight things that don't plan to eat you alive.

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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 07:17:55 PM »
A psychic warrior with an obscenely high Str score. Allow yourself to get swallowed, manifest expansion, then make a Str roll to burst your container.

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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 08:53:24 PM »
commoner + delicious flaw, then into a real class.  Now practically anything can and will swallow you.  No more of that DM putting in things that don't want to eat you or can't.

If you are really serious about being swallowed, then forcing the issue is the way to go.

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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 08:57:55 PM »
commoner + delicious flaw, then into a real class.  Now practically anything can and will swallow you.  No more of that DM putting in things that don't want to eat you or can't.

If you are really serious about being swallowed, then forcing the issue is the way to go.
Yeah, that's what he said.

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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 08:59:04 PM »
I did some thinking, and a lot of the tricks that help with melee damage just don't work inside a monster's gizzard, mainly because you're restricted to light or natural weapons.  To that end, I'd suggest getting some natural weapons to power attack with.  I believe Sinfire Titan suggested Totemist?  That's a great place to get natural weapons.

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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 11:23:51 PM »
I'm pretty sure that when you've been swallowed, the creature that swallowed you is flat-footed to your attacks. So get some sneak attack and natural weapons, and rip em to shreds from the inside. :D
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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 11:37:02 PM »
commoner + delicious flaw, then into a real class.  Now practically anything can and will swallow you.  No more of that DM putting in things that don't want to eat you or can't.

If you are really serious about being swallowed, then forcing the issue is the way to go.
Yeah, that's what he said.

What happens if you combine Delicious with Infested with Chickens?
Every time you try to retrieve an item from a container, there's a 50% chance a chicken will bite off your fingers?

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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2011, 11:38:02 PM »
commoner + delicious flaw, then into a real class.  Now practically anything can and will swallow you.  No more of that DM putting in things that don't want to eat you or can't.

If you are really serious about being swallowed, then forcing the issue is the way to go.
Yeah, that's what he said.

What happens if you combine Delicious with Infested with Chickens?
Every time you try to retrieve an item from a container, there's a 50% chance a chicken will bite off your fingers?
I'm sure there's a rooster joke here somewhere...
[spoiler]Masculine men like masculine things. Masculine men are masculine. Therefore, liking masculine men is masculine.

I dare anyone to find a hole in that logic.
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My awesome poster collection. (Warning, some are NSFW.)
Agita's awesome poster collection.
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Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 11:40:05 PM »
commoner + delicious flaw, then into a real class.  Now practically anything can and will swallow you.  No more of that DM putting in things that don't want to eat you or can't.

If you are really serious about being swallowed, then forcing the issue is the way to go.
Yeah, that's what he said.

What happens if you combine Delicious with Infested with Chickens?
Every time you try to retrieve an item from a container, there's a 50% chance a chicken will bite off your fingers?
I'm sure there's a rooster joke here somewhere...
several  :smirk

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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2011, 12:51:14 AM »
Yes, the hp damage done to one's stomach is in fact done to one's total hp. It's his stomach.

A caster would have a field day inside of a stomach. So many area affects to shoe from, no Reflex saves to be had...
And, though acid is found in the stomach, nowhere does i say that the stomach is immune to acid damage. Energy substitute you damage to acid and get yourself acid resistance with energy resistance spell and go to town with that acidic fireball, acid fog, etc. How about Wall of blades? Cloudkill?

Now that I think about it, swallowing is, like, the first thing any caster wants to happen against him when he is up against one lone big bad...
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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2011, 01:00:58 AM »
Darkvision, TWF & Rogue?

Sneak attack the bejeebus out of the gizzards of whatever swallowed you :)

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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2011, 01:43:32 AM »
Yes, the hp damage done to one's stomach is in fact done to one's total hp. It's his stomach.

A caster would have a field day inside of a stomach. So many area affects to shoe from, no Reflex saves to be had...
And, though acid is found in the stomach, nowhere does i say that the stomach is immune to acid damage. Energy substitute you damage to acid and get yourself acid resistance with energy resistance spell and go to town with that acidic fireball, acid fog, etc. How about Wall of blades? Cloudkill?

Now that I think about it, swallowing is, like, the first thing any caster wants to happen against him when he is up against one lone big bad...
Just be sure to Still and Eschew them.  You're still grappled, after all.

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Re: Indigestible
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2011, 04:33:09 PM »
If things turn bad, always carry several amounts of Ipecac. Expedition to Castle Ravenloft p. 209

No save, they regurgitate you, and are nauseated for 1d4 rounds, no save.