In need of suggestions

[The_Mad_Linguist]

The Worm That Walks?

No, the guy who was all "uhh dudes, you know you don't need to worship the gods to get divine spells, right?", and the gods were all like "HERESY!" and then he was all "you guys are massive dicks, blaargh I is dead"

[SorO_Lost]

The Worm That Walks?

No, the guy who was all "uhh dudes, you know you don't need to worship the gods to get divine spells, right?", and the gods were all like "HERESY!" and then he was all "you guys are massive dicks, blaargh I is dead"

Sounds like a character I'd want to run.

[Tshern]

I do believe that racial deities are the only ones with racial domains, and racial deities require you to be of the race in question.

Play a Cleric with no deity at all.

[snakeman830]

The Worm That Walks?

No, the guy who was all "uhh dudes, you know you don't need to worship the gods to get divine spells, right?", and the gods were all like "HERESY!" and then he was all "you guys are massive dicks, blaargh I is dead"

Serrotus is the name.  As an extra bonus, since he's an Elder Evil, you get bonus feats if you worship him.

[Kajhera]

I do believe that racial deities are the only ones with racial domains, and racial deities require you to be of the race in question.

Play a Cleric with no deity at all.

A female gnome cloistered cleric/divine oracle with the Kobold and Trickery domains.  

She's a crazy kobold fangirl whose suicidal fascination triggers her to learn ways of mitigating traps and disguising her gnomish nature. She aspires to the power to cast Polymorph Any Object to change into ... a kobold.

(Serious recommendation: If you find 6+int skill points too many, Divine Oracle might be a fun PrC.)

[Tshern]

I see no flaw in that plan. Well done.

[geniussavant]

An artificer(ECB) can be a decent trap finder, and if built right, a blastificer can seriously lay out some damage, but I'm unsure of how it would interact with the campaign's XP situation...

Here is a link that might be worth while to take a look at when choosing your race. Check out Stormwrack for underwater campaign rules that might be of some help.

[Shiki]

^Yeah, that XP thing is kind of weird and I'm not sure how my DM would react if I make an Artificer, which burns XP all the time for everything... Though I must say I'm not that interested in playing one.


Thanks for the help guys. I'm still not sure what I'll do in the end, although I still have time before we start (probably, like, 1-2 month(s)). I'll try to make something in the next few days and post it to see if it could get pimped a bit more. o:

[Shiki]

Fighter guy has read ToB more accuratly recently and will go for Swordsage something. I'll point out DFI and shit to our Bard. I'm assuming hp offense is covered, so I'm thinking my char needs to be a "toolbox" of some sorts, while still being a capable scout, helping in fights w/ a "God"-esque role.

I'm having a hard time thinking a build up that doesn't involve some tier 1 class, and I'd prefer not have to play one of those... :/

[Kajhera]

... Toolbox, scouting, and god spells without being tier 1?

Go Beguiler. Honestly. Consider dipping Mindbender for Telepathy and Mindsight.

If you find yourself really craving spells off the list, it's one of those classes that can benefit well from things that expand spell lists.

[Gods_Trick]

A literal toolbox could be a Warforged Shaper, taking a level in something with Trapfinding. Factotum would be my pick. Tremedous variety of what you can do.

If you go the Beguiler route check with your GM with how Illusions function underwater. I had issues with a GM once about that nonsense 

[Shiki]

I've never really tried out plain Beguiler, but on paper their cloaked casting looks quite underwhelming and probably is, so I'll probably want to PrC out as fast as possible. I'm thinking about Human Beguiler 1 w/ Able Learner, Heighten Spell, Sanctum Spell and Versatile Spellcaster for cheesy entry into Rainbow Servant, then dipping Mindbender @12 for Mindsight, and then what? Not sure about feats too... I guess I should use an Aquatic Human and use Air Breathing when we'll be out of water, though thematically an aquatic Human into Rainbow Servant is kinda weird, but who cares. All in all, I've never had any inspiration when it comes to Beguilers..


I like that Warforged Shaper idea. Maybe something like Factotum 1/Shaper 5/Constructor 10/Full Manifesting 4. Feats selection shouldn't be too hard, considering how supported Psionics are, book-wise.. Her manifesting progression is quite delayed but she still gets 9th level powers, got a bunch of skill points and careful selection of powers should help with cross-class skills and shit, there's Practiced Manifester for lost MLs, plus living construct traits. And Warforgeds are a pretty cool race too, although I'm not sure if I'll be able to play one since this campaign is supposed to take place in the (Forgotten) Realms and there are thematics issues here. I could probably work out something with my DM. [edit] Or alternatively, Factotum 1/Shaper 5 (w/ Personal Construct ACF)/Constructor 9/Full Manifesting 5 (Shaper +5?). Mhm.[/edit]