Author Topic: Faster than light clerics? (Read 4417 times)

Gaius · « **on:** March 04, 2011, 08:52:28 PM »

I seem to remember there being a trick that allowed clerics to move faster than light. IIRC it utilized some spell in Complete Champion along with some other stuff to break causality.

Anyone remember this?

RelentlessImp · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2011, 08:54:23 PM »

You're looking for Chuck E. Cheese, who used Persistent Footsteps of the Divine and discharged it to achieve relativistic speeds. A quick google should find him for you.

Unfortunately, the trick was errata'd out, as either A: Footsteps of the Divine received a (D) in its description, or B: Persistent was changed to not allow Discharged spells. I forget which one it was that made the trick illegal.

The exact build was Cleric 4/Crusader 1/Ruby Knight Windicator 10/X 5.

EDIT:
For the lazy.

skydragonknight · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2011, 09:00:42 PM »

Footsteps becoming a dischargable spell made it fall apart like a house of cards...

bearsarebrown · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2011, 09:26:04 PM »

For those curious about FTL travel in DnD, its damn hard. Not counting teleports of course. Even a caster with a five digit casterlevel on a Reserves of Strengthened Phantom Steep making a Run action doesn't begin to scratch away at c.

skydragonknight · « **Reply #4 on:** March 04, 2011, 09:33:33 PM »

It took Chuck over a thousand Run actions each at over 5 million feet. Those are the kinds of numbers we're talking about. And he still only made like 1.1 c.

RelentlessImp · « **Reply #5 on:** March 04, 2011, 09:36:50 PM »

Quote from: bearsarebrown on March 04, 2011, 09:26:04 PM

For those curious about FTL travel in DnD, its damn hard. Not counting ~~teleports~~ Spelljammer ships of course. Even a caster with a five digit casterlevel on a Reserves of Strengthened Phantom Steep making a Run action doesn't begin to scratch away at c.

I'm in ur thred, fixin ur posts

The_Mad_Linguist · « **Reply #6 on:** March 04, 2011, 10:03:23 PM »

You just need to figure out some way to get two hundred million magic traps of mage hand.

And into orbit.

If you just want one round of above-c travel, I'm pretty sure you can reduce the cost of a single trap down to around 1 GP or so. Last time I tried I got it down to around 12 gp for automatic reset or so.

Avoiding infinite cash shenanigans like (sp)wishes, you'll need a leadership chain with thrallherd and landlord out the wazoo.

Amechra · « **Reply #7 on:** March 04, 2011, 10:09:56 PM »

Remind me again why you can't have a Persistent Time Stop?

Because then over-C travel is more tenable.

The_Mad_Linguist · « **Reply #8 on:** March 04, 2011, 10:15:22 PM »

Quote from: Amechra on March 04, 2011, 10:09:56 PM

Remind me again why you can't have a Persistent Time Stop?

Because then over-C travel is more tenable.

Because persistent spell doesn't work on rounds of apparent time.

Time Stop has a "real" duration of instantaneous.

JaronK · « **Reply #9 on:** March 04, 2011, 10:23:32 PM »

Note that you can use the Distance Shot feat to fire an arrow at anything you can see... including distant stars. It hits in the same round. I believe that should have no trouble blowing the hell out of your little speed of light speed limit. If you wanted a person to do it, just get a really big archer and tie a halfling to the arrow or something.

JaronK

BruceLeeroy · « **Reply #10 on:** March 04, 2011, 10:27:22 PM »

Quote from: JaronK on March 04, 2011, 10:23:32 PM

Note that you can use the Distance Shot feat to fire an arrow at anything you can see... including distant stars. It hits in the same round. I believe that should have no trouble blowing the hell out of your little speed of light speed limit. If you wanted a person to do it, just get a really big archer and tie a halfling to the arrow or something.

JaronK

altpersona · « **Reply #11 on:** March 04, 2011, 10:46:57 PM »

yip, you take a colossal arrow, hollow it out, add passengers, they may want to have their own personal life support options prepared, and fire.

i think i got all those ,'s right.

Amechra · « **Reply #12 on:** March 04, 2011, 10:49:15 PM »

But, pre-epic, without True Dragon cheese?

And was the Instantaneous designation added in errata? All I see is that the Duration is listed as 1d4+1 rounds of apparent time, which is different?

Elsewise, I have an untouchable (I think) Psion, who beats the speed of light (from other people's perspectives, at least) easily. High level, though.

Bozwevial · « **Reply #13 on:** March 04, 2011, 10:55:37 PM »

Temporal Acceleration+Temporal Reiteration+Font of Power, I suppose.

skydragonknight · « **Reply #14 on:** March 04, 2011, 11:04:04 PM »

The circumference of the Earth is 40075.16 km...or 40075160 meters. Having commoners circle the Earth in a single row, each with a readied action to "pass the bucket" produces a speed of 6 679 193 m/sec.

The speed of light is 299 792 458 m/sec...so it would take 45 rows of commoners to break the speed of light (they can pass diagonally to the next row).

Now to determine the number of commoners by changing that to 5 ft squares...45 * 40075160 meters / 0.3048 meters per foot / 5 ft = the number of 5 ft squares...

1 183 321 653 (and a half) commoners required to pull it off, so maybe a bit high for a fantasy setting, but using Earth as a D&D setting (and thus D&D physics) would allow it work.

Amechra · « **Reply #15 on:** March 04, 2011, 11:27:38 PM »

Quote from: Bozwevial on March 04, 2011, 10:55:37 PM

Temporal Acceleration+Temporal Reiteration+Font of Power, I suppose.

Bingo.

Tshern · « **Reply #16 on:** March 05, 2011, 01:46:43 PM »

Commoner railgun maybe?

snakeman830 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 05, 2011, 04:05:59 PM »

Anyone with White Raven Tactics and Adaptive Style can do it. Initiate White Raven Tactics (tagetting self), recover with Adaptive Tyle, take a 5-ft step. Repeat ad nauseum.

If you're one of those folks that says you can't target yourself with White Raven Tactics, then they can be Mas Y Menos and do it instead.

RelentlessImp · « **Reply #18 on:** March 05, 2011, 04:12:59 PM »

Quote from: snakeman830 on March 05, 2011, 04:05:59 PM

Anyone with White Raven Tactics and Adaptive Style can do it. Initiate White Raven Tactics (tagetting self), recover with Adaptive Tyle, take a 5-ft step. Repeat ad nauseum.

If you're one of those folks that says you can't target yourself with White Raven Tactics, then they can be Mas Y Menos and do it instead.

You mean people who have read the errata?

Solo · « **Reply #19 on:** March 05, 2011, 04:18:13 PM »

And consider the FAQ ruling valid?

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Author Topic: Faster than light clerics? (Read 4417 times)