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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #220 on: January 25, 2011, 09:02:37 AM »

Q 60: What level are the 2 spells needed for the Dark Chaos Shuffle, and which book are they found in?



Both are level 8 and they are in Fiendish Codex 1:Hordes of the Abyss.......
They both cost 250 xp and their names are Shun the Dark Chaos and Embrace the Dark Chaos.....

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #221 on: January 25, 2011, 09:04:33 AM »

Q 60: What level are the 2 spells needed for the Dark Chaos Shuffle, and which book are they found in?



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Both are level 8 and they are in Fiendish Codex 1:Hordes of the Abyss.......
They both cost 250 xp and their names are Shun the Dark Chaos and Embrace the Dark Chaos.....

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« Reply #222 on: January 25, 2011, 10:09:23 AM »
Q55: Without level adjustment, caster level loss, or (Greater) Anyspell, what methods exist to give a Cleric Pounce?
At the very least, Transformation and Animal domains for some spell turning you into a creature with Pounce.  (Shapechange for both, Polymorph for the first).

Don't have either of those domains. With that said, the Tiger Claw way might work. Sure I could Draconic Polymorph into a Cave Troll, but I'd rather be a War Troll with Pounce. :P
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #223 on: January 25, 2011, 10:33:29 AM »
Q: how many times can a venomous creature bite/sting before it rund out of venom? (it just occured to me that you can cast venomfire on something that spits...)

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #224 on: January 25, 2011, 12:03:54 PM »
Q: how many times can a venomous creature bite/sting before it rund out of venom? (it just occured to me that you can cast venomfire on something that spits...)
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #225 on: January 25, 2011, 01:34:12 PM »
So, with rapid maximalization, I could get my venomous friend to strike (or spit) for 48 dmg per hit, for an hour?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #226 on: January 25, 2011, 01:50:41 PM »
So, with rapid maximalization, I could get my venomous friend to strike (or spit) for 48 dmg per hit, for an hour?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #227 on: January 25, 2011, 03:09:24 PM »
What, no energy admixed, empowered, possibly fell drain (I forget whether you can apply it) spit?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #228 on: January 25, 2011, 04:56:46 PM »
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What, no energy admixed, empowered, possibly fell drain (I forget whether you can apply it) spit?

I am a bit new to this stuff

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #229 on: January 25, 2011, 06:43:56 PM »
Q: Is there any way to get the Monstrous Beast template(savage species pg122) onto a PC?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #230 on: January 25, 2011, 06:55:59 PM »
Q: Is there any way to get the Monstrous Beast template(savage species pg122) onto a PC?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #231 on: January 26, 2011, 01:08:51 AM »
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What, no energy admixed, empowered, possibly fell drain (I forget whether you can apply it) spit?

I am a bit new to this stuff

That wasn't meant to be a jab at you.  I was just surprised all you got was a "Yes" rather than one or more suggestions for turning Spit Poison into a shot that'll make a warlock green with envy.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #232 on: January 26, 2011, 04:00:55 AM »
Q 63 Is it really legal to have a Barbarian with Wildshape at level 5? (Assuming variant chaining)

Rage -> Archery Combat Style, Favored Enemy
Combat Style -> Wild Shape (small/med only), Fast Movement

My doubt is that 'Archery Combat Style' != Combat Style because Archery Combat Style is more specific.

Q 64 Why do some people say variant chaining is legal? The requirement to take an alternate class feature is to actually take the class, isn't it? It has nothing to do with the fact that one could give up certain class features.

(Might not actually be a simple question.)

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #233 on: January 26, 2011, 04:56:24 AM »
A character has a touchstone feat, and is currently attuned to random location A
This character is also a chameleon, and uses his bonus feat to take touchstone again. 
This attunes him to random location A and random location B.

Now, if he attuned himself to random location C, he'd be able to choose whether he lost A or lost B.  That's explicit. 

There isn't anything linking a particular site to a particular version of the feat - each touchstone feat gives you a slot, so it looks like if he chooses a different bonus feat the next day, he can say "screw A, I'm keeping B", and keep B.

I guess the question here is

Q)Can a chameleon use his bonus feat to shuffle around a different touchstone feat's target?
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #234 on: January 26, 2011, 05:32:09 AM »
Q's 63 and 64 are in no way simple.  Honestly, giving them their own thread will not yield a solid argument one way or another.

The way I see it, if a Ranger's combat style can be traded-in for Wild Shape, then why *not* a Barbarian's combat style?  Even if it's specifically the Archery style, they're all supposedly of equal value, hence why you're able to trade them out in the first place.  Personally, I think chaining to this degree has actually resulted in a relatively weaker character.  He has poor reflex saves, fewer skill points, and no Ranger spells.  12 HP and Uncanny Dodge really doesn't compensate very well for that.

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« Reply #235 on: January 26, 2011, 07:43:15 AM »
Is there a list of domain granted powers anywhere?  The closest thing I can find is this:
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=2773.0
but that's obviously not complete.
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« Reply #236 on: January 26, 2011, 08:39:38 AM »
Is there a list of domain granted powers anywhere?  The closest thing I can find is this:
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=2773.0
but that's obviously not complete.
http://chet.kindredcircle.org/pdf/DnD3.5Index-Spells-ClericalDomains.pdf
If you do not mind some scrolling, there are some over there not covered by the dipping-guide
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #237 on: January 26, 2011, 09:27:59 AM »
Q 63 Is it really legal to have a Barbarian with Wildshape at level 5? (Assuming variant chaining)

Rage -> Archery Combat Style, Favored Enemy
Combat Style -> Wild Shape (small/med only), Fast Movement

My doubt is that 'Archery Combat Style' != Combat Style because Archery Combat Style is more specific.

Q 64 Why do some people say variant chaining is legal? The requirement to take an alternate class feature is to actually take the class, isn't it? It has nothing to do with the fact that one could give up certain class features.

(Might not actually be a simple question.)
It's not legal by RAW since you are right, you can only take an alternate class feature for the class it specifies it is for. However, it is a perfectly reasonable house rule.

People say it is legal because of wishful thinking and they think it is cool/reasonable.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #238 on: January 26, 2011, 09:33:56 AM »
Is there a list of domain granted powers anywhere?  The closest thing I can find is this: http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=2773.0 but that's obviously not complete.
http://chet.kindredcircle.org/pdf/DnD3.5Index-Spells-ClericalDomains.pdf If you do not mind some scrolling, there are some over there not covered by the dipping-guide

Also, IMarvinTPA provides the granted power for each of the 131 domains it lists. 

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 22: Bah weep gragnah weep nini bong
« Reply #239 on: January 26, 2011, 10:40:33 AM »
Q66: Can you really stack Extend and Persist to get a 36-hour duration spell? Knee-jerk reaction in my group was 'those probably wouldn't stack', so if they do, I and my clericdin would like a good reason why they do.