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Yoda
« on: July 15, 2008, 12:29:15 AM »
Attention: I am trying to make this now, here and now, now being level 12. I know that there are 8 more levels out there, there is also epicness, but I don't want to look ahead yet, especially since I don't have these first 12 levels worked out.

House Rules: Through diplomatic means/my DM wanting me to play this, Weapon Finesse, Shadow Blade, and weapon augment crystals will work with the Rod of Force (one of the only items Yoda will have), since this Rod of Force will only be a short sword. Any prestige class that grants '+1 level of existing spell casting class' will also work with obscure casting methods (inarcanum, psionics, invocations, etc) just to try and get a few of our players to branch out. That is relevant in this build because I am using Eldritch Knight to increase my manifester level.



Paladin - Weapon Finesse (level), xxxx (shakey), xxxx (meager fortitude), Detect Evil
Paladin - Divine Grace
Ardent - Serenity (level), Force Mantle, Freedom Mantle [Force Screen] [Deflection Field]
Ardent - Communication Mantle [Hustle]
Ardent - [Telekinetic Force]
Eldritch Knight - xxxx (level), xxxx (Eldritch Knight bonus)
Eldritch Knight - [Telekinetic Maneuver]
Eldritch Knight - Deception Mantle [Suggestion, Psionic]
Eldritch Knight - xxxx (level), [Cloud Mind, Mass]
Eldritch Knight - [Fly Psionic]
SwordSage -
SwordSage - Shadow Blade (level), WIS to AC

Feat, [Power], Mantle, Key Class Ability

Alignment: Lawful Good

Race: Goblin

BAB: +10

FORT:+10 (+6 WIS, -3 flaw)
RFLX:+5 (+4 DEX, +6 WIS)
WILL:+7 (+6 WIS, +6 WIS)

Stats (32 PB, I'm too lazy to go back and show what went where):
STR: 8
DEX: 18
CON: 10
INT:  14
WIS: 23
CHA: 8

Power Points: 46 (+36)
Powers Known: 8

Mantles: Force, Deception, Communication, Freedom
Powers:
1 Force Screen (Force) - Invisible disc provides +4 shield bonus to AC
1 Deflection Field (Force) - Unseen force provides +4 deflection bonus to AC
2 Hustle (Freedom) - Gain a move action (swift action to cast)
3 Telekinetic Force (Force) - Move an object with the sustained force of your mind (250 lbs, +25 per extra power point used)
4 Telekinetic Maneuver (Force) - Telekinetically  bull rush, disarm, grapple, or trip your opponent (uses BAB + INT  :weep )
2 Suggestion, Psionic (Communication) - Compels subject to follow stated course of action
6 Cloud Mind, Mass (Deception) - Erase knowledge of your presence from the minds of one creature/level
4 Fly, Psionic (Freedom) - You fly at a speed of 60ft.

Feats (7 total):
Serenity (WIS instead of CHA for Divine Grace)
Weapon Finesse
Shadow Blade (Bo9S)
xxxx
xxxx
xxxx
xxxx

Items (88,000g): (87,466 used here)
Rod of Force (60,000) - A rod that, on command, 5 times per day, turns into a +1 Brilliant Energy SHORTSWORD (light saber)
Phoenix Ash Threat, Greater (6000) - When you hit with a weapon containing this crystal, opponent takes 5 fire damage the next round
+1 Club (2,001) - Yoda's walking stick and only way to smack a construct
Cloak of Weaponry (2,300) - As a swift action, draw a weapon weighing 25 pounds or less
Periapt of Wisdom +4 (16,000) - Will improve AC, power points, and saves
+1 Chain Shirt (1,165) - +5 Armor Bonus

Book Source:
Ardent (CP)
Mantles (CP)
Powers (XPH, CP)
Serenity (Dragon Compendium)
Rod of Force (MIC)
Phoenix Ash Crystal (MIC)
Cloak of Weaponry (MIC)

Books Allowed:
Anything, 3rd party even




Thanks for reading this far. :D If you have advice to offer, please do. I still need help with some feats, obviously, aswell as my maneuvers/stances. I wish, WISH, that I could do a little damage in melee, but it doesn't look like that will happen unless maneuvers can provide it. The background for this campaign is a time/dimension travel one where our PC's have been blackmailed into fixing things that have gone amiss throughout space and time. Building themed characters that obviously came from a specific place in space/time was recommended by our DM. Another of our players is making Hulk, etc.
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Re: Yoda
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 12:51:13 AM »
What are the most vital abilities to have?  Here's my guess:
1) Fucking powerful telekenesis.  Nobody outdoes yoda on force.
2) Diplomacy+ detect hostile intent
3) Ability to buff enough to be competent in melee.  Yoda rarely dirties his hand, but is competent.

My bet:
Manifesting heavy.
Control body+solicit psicrystal
TK of course
psionic charm
telepathy+mindsight
defensive precog

For classes, something like this:
Psion 5/ Mindbender 1/ Thrallherd 6

When does yoda *not* have a bodyguard?
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Re: Yoda
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 04:46:58 AM »
When he...spends twenty years alone in a swamp...?

(I'm not entirely sure if you were being sarcastic or not...)

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Re: Yoda
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 05:04:22 AM »
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1) Fucking powerful telekenesis.  Nobody outdoes yoda on force.
2) Diplomacy+ detect hostile intent
3) Ability to buff enough to be competent in melee.  Yoda rarely dirties his hand, but is competent.

1)Telekinetic Force (250+25lbs per power point used) Telekinetic Maneuver (trip disarm etc)
2)Suggestion, Psionic/Cloud Mind, Mass, Detect Evil at will
3)So far I can only get his AC up a little, if you'll take the time to read the OP (kind of leaning toward you didnt), I requested help in this area

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My bet:
Manifesting heavy.
Control body+solicit psicrystal
TK of course
psionic charm
telepathy+mindsight
defensive precog

I dunno about Psi Charm. Jedi mind tricks don't really charm people, it's more like they just tell them to do something, like Suggestion. The others you listed are inaccessible to Ardent, which makes me wonder if it's the class I should be taking. I think Ardent makes sense in a lot of ways, though.
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Re: Yoda
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 05:32:10 AM »
I think just pure PsiWar with Expanded Knowledge would be good enough. TK + Psi Suggestion + mobility powers would do the job (Psi Jump, Psi Lion Charge, Hustle, etc.) + Precogs.

Alternatively, Swordsage 3/PsyWar 2/Warmind x would be pretty solid too. Sweeping Strike would be golden and quite appropriate to lightsabre combat vs mooks.

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Re: Yoda
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 06:31:04 AM »
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I think just pure PsiWar with Expanded Knowledge would be good enough

They get almost no Power Points and taking Expanded Knowledge 5 times doesn't sound fun.

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Alternatively, Swordsage 3/PsyWar 2/Warmind x would be pretty solid too. Sweeping Strike would be golden and quite appropriate to lightsabre combat

Sweeping strike is such a lightsaber class feature, but I don't like PsyWar and can't get the entry for Warmind without PsyWar/get shitty manifesting with Warmind.
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Re: Yoda
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2008, 07:35:16 AM »
I think Blues (the psionic goblins?) have an inherent PP score? With LA buyback, by level 12, your xp difference won't be enough to matter. That would allow you get around the level of PsyWar crap. I put PsyWar in there for the feats, to be honest.

You manifesting would still be crap, tho.

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Re: Yoda
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2008, 08:53:36 AM »
Since the DM is already being generously liberal with the Rod of Force, why not try to have it count as a short sword so it's a Shadow Hand weapon (and thus applicable for Shadow Blade)? You lose an average of 1 damage, but you gain your Dex bonus.

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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2008, 09:13:57 AM »
I was just thinking about it. Giving Warmind the option to +1 manifesting class instead of a separate manifesting might solve a lot of "suck" issues. No worse than Slayer, IMO.

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Re: Yoda
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2008, 09:22:36 AM »
Warmind idea was already shot down.

(BTW I'm the DM.)

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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2008, 02:22:55 PM »
I *did* read the OP.  Just thought a different route would be more in character.  I'm not a huge star wars buff, so *shrug*
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Re: Yoda
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2008, 06:52:29 PM »
Mind's Eye has the update for Mantles - Substitute Powers. Basically it's pick 'em.

"There's a disturbance in the Force."
Mindlink across the Planes, undispellable.

The Lightning Force display fighting stuff is an obvious psi-power.
Energy Conversion to absorb it.

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Re: Yoda
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2008, 09:34:07 PM »
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The Lightning Force display fighting stuff is an obvious psi-power.
Energy Conversion to absorb it.

I had originally wanted to be a Storm Disciple, but the alignment has to be chaotic. Good tip though, thanks.

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Since the DM is already being generously liberal with the Rod of Force, why not try to have it count as a short sword so it's a Shadow Hand weapon (and thus applicable for Shadow Blade)? You lose an average of 1 damage, but you gain your Dex bonus.

Excellent!  :clap It makes sense because it's not how hard you swing a Light Saber anyway.

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Mind's Eye has the update for Mantles - Substitute Powers. Basically it's pick 'em.

This sounds amazing. Off hand, do you know which article that was in? There's quite a few in the archive.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 11:39:27 PM »
This sounds amazing. Off hand, do you know which article that was in? There's quite a few in the archive.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070629a