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A tale of two monks
« on: December 20, 2010, 10:44:21 PM »
Listen well to this tale from the depths of the ages.

Long ago there lived two brothers. No one knows for sure where they were from - some say the Outlands, some say Riedra. According to some stories these brothers were students of the Temple of Reshar who disagreed with his teachings. By others, Reshar himself was their pupil for a time, or was inspired to gather the Nine Swords by their legend. Regardless, these two had a goal. An ambition. In their travels they had seen wizards, clerics, sorcerers and druids do wondrous things, but to them such works seemed empty. All of them called on the powers of others, be it gods, demons or nature itself. Was man so pitiful that he could not stand in the world of miracles on his own two legs?

And so, they searched for a place where they could learn to walk. After many years, the two came to a lone mountain beyond the reach of any kingdom and knew at once that this would become their home. They climbed to its summit and with their bare hands carved a great monastery above the clouds.

For decades the brothers would train in martial forms, then meditate on the nature of their quest. One day, the younger brother was shaken from his trance by "a light that tasted like wind". He opened his eyes to see the older brother smiling in triump as mist and fire danced along his body. It is said that on that day the first psion was born.

Now that they had taken the first step, the brothers sent out a great call to all corners of the world, to all who would unlock the power of mortals. And their call was answered. The disciples varied, from rich to poor, saintly to monstrous, but none were turned away. In time, following the elder brother's guidance, they too learned to stand in the world of miracles by their power alone.

With one exception. Regardless of his efforts, the younger brother was never able to match his older brother's accomplishments, and his role in the monastery they had built together was fading. Seeing their students growing greater and greater he redoubled his efforts, until one day he succeeded. In his hands was a shard of light born from pure force of will. It was a simple thing, and unimpressive compared to the older brother's talents, but seeing it he smiled and embraced him. The two returned to teaching together, and before long the technique had been refined into a blade which could pierce even the soul.

And then things began to go wrong. The younger brother heard that one of the newcomers to the temple could hit a fly with a shuriken from a hundred feet. Curious, he made his way to where a crowd was gathered, and sat down to watch as the man prepared to wrestle one of his fellow acolytes. To the brother's horror, he began to recite a spell. Angry and fearful that magic would contaminate their work, he summoned his mind blade and made to strike him down. In the blink of an eye the elder brother was between them, shattering the knife of his soul with a sword of hard lightning. Halt brother, he said, this man came here merely to learn how to defend himself without armour. And look at how he has grown to the size of a giant, surely if we could adapt such a technique to our methods then our style would grow all the stronger?

But the younger brother's mind was too clouded by dark thoughts for him to listen. Not only had his brother attacked him, he had proven the sword to which he had dedicated all his life to be but a crude mockery of his own powers. What's more, he now sought to incorporate magic into their school? As time grew, he began to believe that his brother's teachings were magic, and that he and everyone in their school sought to destroy his dream.

At last, the younger brother's murderous intentions met their peak. He snuck into the older brother's room at night and stabbed his mind blade into his heart. To his shock the older brother did not die, but jerked awake. As he attempted to flee, the older brother gave chase, hurling crystals and acid as he coughed blood from his mouth. The students were woken by the commotion, and when they realised what had happened they joined in the hunt.

Soon the younger brother was cornered. He stood on the mountain's peak, surrounded by an army who had mastered both body and mind. As crows circled overhead, they asked why he had done what he did but received only garbled madness. With heavy hearts, they began to focus and draw on the power within themselves to slay him. At which point he shrieked to the heavens. The birds' shapes began to morph and flow, becoming men and women in armour and robes.

What followed was a massacre. The mages he had hired unleashed fire and lightning. Monks choked on poison clouds or were devoured alive by jaws of force. At last, they summoned a great earthquake which swallowed the monastery with all its students and reduced the mountain to rubble.

With what little gold he had left the younger brother travelled to the far side of the world, where he founded a new monastery. Taking the path of self-improvement they had wrought together, he jealously tore out any aspects related to the mind. Only the very first techniques they had developed together, before the elder's "awakening", were left untouched. That butchered style eventually became known as the Crescent Moon.

Stop laughing. I may not look like it, but I've done no small amount of fighting in my youth. I know you probably think Crescent Moon is one of those styles which has a few useful tricks but doesn't go anywhere. But let me tell you. You're familiar with The Thousand Hand Tempest? Yes, the Thousand Hand Tempest, that "silly" move where you barrage your enemy with punches that's almost impossible to set up. The current form of that technique is incomplete. In its original form it was combined with a burst of psychic power to increase your speed, allowing you to get at least six good blows on an opponent at the other side of the room before he even knows what's happening. You'll see a lot of half-techniques like that in Crescent Moon if you just know what you're looking for.

They say some of the brothers' apprentices survived the attack and are still out there, teaching the "Full Moon" style in its original form. But that's ridiculous of course. We all know a human couldn't live that long.
« Last Edit: December 29, 2010, 03:04:30 PM by Prime32 »
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Re: A tale of two monks
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2010, 11:05:43 PM »
Interesting story.

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Re: A tale of two monks
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2010, 11:10:17 PM »
And what of the splinter group who reformed under the banner of the Luminous Order?
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Re: A tale of two monks
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2010, 11:11:08 PM »
Interesting story.
I thought you'd like it.

And what of the splinter group who reformed under the banner of the Luminous Order?
Not sure what you're referring to.
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[spoiler]Tier 6: A cartographer.
Tier 5: An expert cartographer or a decent marksman.
Tier 4: An expert marksman.
Tier 3: An expert marksman, cartographer and chef who can tie strong knots and is trained in hostage negotiation or a marksman so good he can shoot down every bullet fired by a minigun while armed with a rusted single-shot pistol that veers to the left.
Tier 2: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything, or the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.
Tier 1: Someone with teleportation, mind control, time manipulation, intangibility, the ability to turn into an exact duplicate of anything and the ability to see into the future with perfect accuracy.[/spoiler]

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Re: A tale of two monks
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2010, 11:15:32 PM »
Serene Guardians from The Shattered Gates of Slaughtergarde are all members of the Luminous Order. 

So are solar channelers, but that class is just awful.  Marginally less bad if you manage to increase your turning level and enter early, but normal entry causes you to give up caster levels to gain the ability to burn turn attempts and become weaker.
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Re: A tale of two monks
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2010, 02:36:53 PM »
An in game explanation for why monks are terrible, nice.

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Re: A tale of two monks
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2010, 12:41:47 AM »
On a related note, there's quite a bit what makes sense about monks, clerics and monasteries.

Clerics are rather SPECIAL. They have a rapport with a god, after all - most priests are usually either experts or adepts, I believe.

Monks, in comparison to other melee classes suffer from MAD, typically lower STR stat, and lower attack bonus as well as less HP than fighters, barbarians, paladins or rangers.

However, training as a monk only requires hard work and dedication, and you can do that all day for free in monasteries! You can train as a monk even if you don't have _any_ abilities, as long as you can just work hard and consistently ( lawful alignment, that is. )

Now, combine a bunch of monks with a cleric: A fifth-level cleric can drop 'prayer' and 'bless' on ALL monks in a monastery, when bandits or monsters attack. Suddenly, any monk of 1st to 4th level has the equivalent of Fighter BAB and +2 STR, while keeping what monk goodies they have. A cleric
can further adjust the situation with bane and aid, while ideally remaining safe in a Sanctuary.

So basically, Monks are Cleric's followers and cohorts :P

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Re: A tale of two monks
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2010, 03:52:06 AM »
Not everyone can make it to cleric maybe.
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Re: A tale of two monks
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2010, 07:40:46 AM »
Y'know, just using swordsage (even the ua variant) isn't a perfect replacement for a shaolin-type monk, but...

Mm... I think something with the styles diamond mind, setting sun and stone dragon... maybe tiger claw too, would do (or pick three?) for styles, none of that shadow hand ninja stuff, or overtly supernatural desert wind.

Class features should include fist enhancement... and I quite like ki points, so....

Mm... medium BAB, could go with swordsage recovery, all good saves, Ki point pool of... say, the usual wis+half level.

Use Ki point to recover maneuver, gain fast healing of 1 per 5 monk levels for (monk lv + 10) rounds, plus the PF goodies. No flurry needed, and fist damage could be 1d6 by default, add superior UAS as one bonus feat. Bonus feats on 2, 6, 10, 12, 16, 18. Initiate same amount of maneuvers as a warblade, throw in the empty hand ability to add on-the-spot enhancements up to +3 ones to punches...

Hmm.... Is there a MA monk build floating around?