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The Thinktank => Min/Max It! => : Prime32 April 30, 2008, 06:11:55 PM

: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: Prime32 April 30, 2008, 06:11:55 PM
I haven't statted it out, but it looks like one powerful combo.

The shadesteel golem (MM3) is a mindless creature intended to act in a stealth role. As such, it gets massive racial bonuses to make up for its lack of skill ranks. It can also release a wave of negative energy to heal nearby undead, which does not affect itself.

Now add the soulfused template from Magic of Incarnum. It gains an Intelligence score, adding a lot of skill ranks to produce insane Hide modifiers. The creature's type changes to Construct (living construct), meaning it can benefit from cure spells. Add Tomb-Tainted Soul as one of its new feats, and it can heal itself with its negative energy attack.

Plus, it gets soulmelds, which can boost its check results further. ;D
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: PhoenixInferno May 01, 2008, 01:30:35 AM
Nice.
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: Sinfire Titan May 01, 2008, 03:43:40 PM
Template Shenanigans


Thanks for pointing this out.
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: Prime32 May 01, 2008, 07:18:17 PM
I don't think I'll have the time to stat it for a while - would anyone else mind?
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: Sinfire Titan May 02, 2008, 03:06:36 PM
You are asking the wrong guy, I can barely get online as is.
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: Prime32 May 13, 2008, 10:20:33 AM
After looking at the template again, I realised that the golem only gets an Int score of 3, and all skills are cross-class. This could be easily solved with a few rogue levels, and maybe an Int-enhancing book. Also, it will have to take the Shape Soulmeld feat for soulmelds, though its pre-existing essentia pool will boost their power. Skill Focus would also be a good choice.
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: Blade2718 May 13, 2008, 11:13:26 PM
After looking at the template again, I realised that the golem only gets an Int score of 3, and all skills are cross-class. This could be easily solved with a few rogue levels, and maybe an Int-enhancing book. Also, it will have to take the Shape Soulmeld feat for soulmelds, though its pre-existing essentia pool will boost their power. Skill Focus would also be a good choice.
Screw Rogue, go Factotum.
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: EjoThims May 16, 2008, 12:27:47 PM
I can give a basic run down a go when I get home from work.
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: Agita May 16, 2008, 10:35:36 PM
After looking at the template again, I realised that the golem only gets an Int score of 3, and all skills are cross-class. This could be easily solved with a few rogue levels, and maybe an Int-enhancing book. Also, it will have to take the Shape Soulmeld feat for soulmelds, though its pre-existing essentia pool will boost their power. Skill Focus would also be a good choice.
Screw Rogue, go Factotum.
I would actually not recommend Factotum in this case. As has been stated, the Int becomes only 3, and Factotum relies a lot on Int.
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: pfooti May 16, 2008, 10:48:33 PM
Hmm, if you Polymorphed into one, you'd get the racial bonuses but keep your mental stats, right? And if you start as a warforged, I'm pretty sure you can turn into a construct (although not a templated one).
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: EjoThims May 16, 2008, 11:20:41 PM
18 HD

ECL -- (+1)
CR 12

15+21 hide
16+25  move silently

Tomb-Tainted Soul
Skill Focus (Hide)
Skill Focus (Move Silently)
Stealthy
Guerilla Warrior
Open Minded
Open Minded

Str 24
Dex 18
Wis 11
Cha 11
Con 10 (No Shape Soulmend)
Int 3

Concealment in all but full daylight

Negative Pulse Wave

Essentia 19

Soulbound Resistance

Rogue levels only give 4 skill points. Shadowdancer might be interesting if you shift some feats around.
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: BoSheck May 17, 2008, 12:07:06 AM
Looks like the Soulfused construct advances just as the Soulspark familiar does, which gives it a boatload of essentia.  At a rate of 4HD/CR bump, and +1 Essentia/HD At +3CR, with all ability boosts going into Con, it can start shaping Soulmelds.

Alternatively, if you did decide to use class levels, it would have equipment, as well as start with the elite array.  Another method would be to give it an inherited template to increase Con.  Half-dragon nets us a Con and Int boost, as well as some other stuff. (Such as replacing the darkvision the poor little construct lost).

Also: The Guerrilla Warrior feat from Heroes of Battle makes Hide and Move Silently purchase as class skills, I know theres a way to get them to your class skill list, though.
: Re: For your consideration... the Soulfused Shadesteel Golem
: EjoThims May 17, 2008, 12:18:14 AM
Also: The Guerrilla Warrior feat from Heroes of Battle makes Hide and Move Silently purchase as class skills, I know theres a way to get them to your class skill list, though.

Knew I overlooked something.