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The Thinktank => Min/Max It! => : Amechra May 30, 2010, 08:20:08 PM

: Critting with your bare hands.
: Amechra May 30, 2010, 08:20:08 PM
How high can you get the threat range/critical multiplier for an unarmed attack?

This is what I have so far:
Improved Critical (Unarmed Strike)

I also remember seeing a feat somewhere that increases the critical multiplier by one.

Ah well, 19-20 x3 isn't too bad, I guess...
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: altpersona May 30, 2010, 08:30:07 PM
i dont have a build 'handy', but i expect using regular board rules, its probably 17-20, but 14 would not surprise me.
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: skydragonknight May 30, 2010, 08:42:03 PM
Heavy Gauntlet (some FR book has Heavy weapons) + Disciple of Dispater. would get you some more. IIRC, DoD only affects metal weapons, and the Heavy property gives an unarmed damage increase so it's nice synergy. Monk's belt and similar effects to keep the unarmed damage good.

The alternative is Tashalatora (Secrets of Sarlona) with Psychic Weapon Master (http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20040827d) would be very nice synergy as well (use a crystal gauntlet). Requires a ridiculous number of feats to qualify though. Monk 1 and 2 can get Dodge and Mobility using a UA variant, and an Ardent 1 dip with practiced manifester to get the 3rd level powers part (Conflict mantle for weapon focus balances the spent feat.) Unfortunately you can't combine DoD with PWM since one requires a metal weapon and the other requires a crystal weapon.
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: Flay Crimsonwind May 30, 2010, 08:45:27 PM
Heavy Gauntlet (some FR book has Heavy weapons) + Disciple of Dispater. would get you some more. IIRC, DoD only affects metal weapons, and the Heavy property gives an unarmed damage increase so it's nice synergy. Monk's belt and similar effects to keep the unarmed damage good.
Warforged ftw! I'd say your unarmed strike as a warforged counts as metal enough for DoD.
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: Prime32 May 30, 2010, 10:05:48 PM
Unfortunately you can't combine DoD with PWM since one requires a metal weapon and the other requires a crystal weapon.
ECS has "crysteel" which is both.
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: skydragonknight May 30, 2010, 10:15:17 PM
...I think we might have a winner.
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: The_Mad_Linguist May 31, 2010, 12:33:02 AM
Wait... someone has actually found a use for crysteel?
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: Negative Zero May 31, 2010, 12:50:45 AM
Wait... someone has actually found a use for crysteel?

Pity it can't be Crysteel and also be Kaorti Resin.
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: fuinjutsu May 31, 2010, 01:02:29 AM
Wait... someone has actually found a use for crysteel?
Erm doesn't Riedran Crysteel strike as a magic weapon even without an enhancement bonus?

I though it was pretty sensible carry around a blade made of it just in case of hostile dudes with DR/Magic in an AMFs
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: The_Mad_Linguist May 31, 2010, 01:16:06 AM
Wait... someone has actually found a use for crysteel?
Erm doesn't Riedran Crysteel strike as a magic weapon even without an enhancement bonus?

I though it was pretty sensible carry around a blade made of it just in case of hostile dudes with DR/Magic in an AMFs
Cyrite is better for that.  Cyrite dragonfang something.
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: bananaphone May 31, 2010, 01:50:28 AM
I though it was pretty sensible carry around a blade made of it just in case of hostile dudes with DR/Magic in an AMFs
Per the Rules Compendium(pg. 41), DR/magic is considered supernatural.  So that AMF would negate the need for magic weapons.