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Sunic's a douche, and not always right, so take what he says with a grain of salt. He tends to forget that while SoL's are awesome, you still need to actually walk up to the things and kill them before you win.
Start by dropping Dexterity to 7 for 4 extra points. With those 19, put Wisdom at 16, Blood at 15, and Constitution at 12, leaving Strength, Intelligence, and Charisma at 10 each. I, personally, would dump Strength and Charisma as well to boost Blood to 16, Constitution to 14, and Intelligence to 12. With the Human boost on Blood, that will boost your Wisdom to 18 and Constitution to 16: a 12-point boon for a 10-point investment, plus you get a solid Blood score of 18 with which to use your DM's homebrew materials (which will likely play a very prominent role in this game; something else Sunic is ignoring).
All that said, your DM really out to start you out at something like 19 PB instead of 15 to compensate for the extra score.
Sunic's a douche, and not always right, so take what he says with a grain of salt. He tends to forget that while SoL's are awesome, you still need to actually walk up to the things and kill them before you win.
Start by dropping Dexterity to 7 for 4 extra points. With those 19, put Wisdom at 16, Blood at 15, and Constitution at 12, leaving Strength, Intelligence, and Charisma at 10 each. I, personally, would dump Strength and Charisma as well to boost Blood to 16, Constitution to 14, and Intelligence to 12. With the Human boost on Blood, that will boost your Wisdom to 18 and Constitution to 16: a 12-point boon for a 10-point investment, plus you get a solid Blood score of 18 with which to use your DM's homebrew materials (which will likely play a very prominent role in this game; something else Sunic is ignoring).
All that said, your DM really out to start you out at something like 19 PB instead of 15 to compensate for the extra score.
1: Hi Welcome
2: If you so much as think of swording in Pathfailure, James Jacobs personally comes to your house and slaps you around with his small penis.
3: I ignore the random bullshit homebrew because it's an obvious Trap. It in no way compares to the only path to victory in Pathfailure.
Sunic, stabbing shit works fine Pathfinder for the first 6 levels, just like it did in 3.5. Surviving those early levels is easiest with a mix of options, like melee and magic, which is what a Cleric does. You have let your hatred for Pathfinder turn you into a moron.Not to mention that the more homebrew a DM brings to the table, the bigger the role it tends to play in his game. Completely dumping/ignoring those rules could lead to DM Ire and/or plain missing out on large tracts of gameplay. Do so at your own peril.
My lot uses Channel to heal outside of combat, mostly, so I never saw the need for combat healing except in emergencies, at which point the party doesn't care.
Sunic's a douche, and not always right, so take what he says with a grain of salt. He tends to forget that while SoL's are awesome, you still need to actually walk up to the things and kill them before you win.
Start by dropping Dexterity to 7 for 4 extra points. With those 19, put Wisdom at 16, Blood at 15, and Constitution at 12, leaving Strength, Intelligence, and Charisma at 10 each. I, personally, would dump Strength and Charisma as well to boost Blood to 16, Constitution to 14, and Intelligence to 12. With the Human boost on Blood, that will boost your Wisdom to 18 and Constitution to 16: a 12-point boon for a 10-point investment, plus you get a solid Blood score of 18 with which to use your DM's homebrew materials (which will likely play a very prominent role in this game; something else Sunic is ignoring).
All that said, your DM really out to start you out at something like 19 PB instead of 15 to compensate for the extra score.
1: Hi Welcome
2: If you so much as think of swording in Pathfailure, James Jacobs personally comes to your house and slaps you around with his small penis.
3: I ignore the random bullshit homebrew because it's an obvious Trap. It in no way compares to the only path to victory in Pathfailure.
Sigh.
Sunic, stabbing shit works fine Pathfinder for the first 6 levels, just like it did in 3.5. Surviving those early levels is easiest with a mix of options, like melee and magic, which is what a Cleric does. You have let your hatred for Pathfinder turn you into a moron.
Sunic:
Why? Why do you have to come into Pathfinder threads and spout shit like a level 3 Fighter doesn't work in Pathfinder. You don't convince anyone who doesn't hate Pathfinder already. The people asking for help for a Pathfinder game, they still go off and play Pathfinder, and even though you know it's BadWrongFun they still have fun.
I don't know what Jason Buhlman did to you, frankly I don't care. I don't care if none of the Paizils wouldn't listen to you during the playtest. If you do this because you are bored, get a new hobby. Let people play the game they want without you spewing bullshit.
1: It is my duty as Crusader of Logic to defend people from bad games. That includes recommending they play a real game.So, because of your self-appointed BS title you are not just entitled, but obligated to be a complete douchebag to everyone who disagrees with you?
1: It is my duty as Crusader of Logic to defend people from bad games. That includes recommending they play a real game.
4E. :P1: It is my duty as Crusader of Logic to defend people from bad games. That includes recommending they play a real game.
So why don't you? 3.5 breaks down in horrific ways even before you hit the mid-levels, so why don't you recommend a game that doesn't punish you for being anything other than a full-caster?
May as well be flame-baiting there. :rollseyes4E. :P1: It is my duty as Crusader of Logic to defend people from bad games. That includes recommending they play a real game.
So why don't you? 3.5 breaks down in horrific ways even before you hit the mid-levels, so why don't you recommend a game that doesn't punish you for being anything other than a full-caster?
4E. :P1: It is my duty as Crusader of Logic to defend people from bad games. That includes recommending they play a real game.
So why don't you? 3.5 breaks down in horrific ways even before you hit the mid-levels, so why don't you recommend a game that doesn't punish you for being anything other than a full-caster?
1: It is my duty as Crusader of Logic to defend people from bad games. That includes recommending they play a real game.So, because of your self-appointed BS title you are not just entitled, but obligated to be a complete douchebag to everyone who disagrees with you?
1: It is my duty as Crusader of Logic to defend people from bad games. That includes recommending they play a real game.
So why don't you? 3.5 breaks down in horrific ways even before you hit the mid-levels, so why don't you recommend a game that doesn't punish you for being anything other than a full-caster?
4E. :P1: It is my duty as Crusader of Logic to defend people from bad games. That includes recommending they play a real game.
So why don't you? 3.5 breaks down in horrific ways even before you hit the mid-levels, so why don't you recommend a game that doesn't punish you for being anything other than a full-caster?
4E. :P1: It is my duty as Crusader of Logic to defend people from bad games. That includes recommending they play a real game.
So why don't you? 3.5 breaks down in horrific ways even before you hit the mid-levels, so why don't you recommend a game that doesn't punish you for being anything other than a full-caster?
And so it begins :rollseyes Bring on the flames.
Sunics kinda bipolar. Whenever hes developing something useful, its all good, smart relevant guy. In self appointed Crusader mode, hes the kid that forces his way into your party and repeatedly tells everyone what a bad party it is.
Hi Welcome
Pathfailure breaks down in all the same ways, and many more besides. 3.5 is also one of the least broken games out there. Which says a lot about the quality of the competition, but whatever.
Hi Welcome
Pathfailure breaks down in all the same ways, and many more besides. 3.5 is also one of the least broken games out there. Which says a lot about the quality of the competition, but whatever.
Nothing I could write can make you look as foolish as you do now.
Hi Welcome
Let's review the competition:
1st edition, 2nd edition: Flat out doesn't cover all manner of things, breaks randomly, and in laughable ways.
Pathfailure: Already covered.
4.Fail: Breaks both in and out of combat, breaks if you ride a donkey, breaks if you play it, breaks if you don't play it, breaks if you look at it funny...
Shadowrun: Breaks if you do anything other than be Murdering Hobos at the deploy of an anonymous employer.
White Wolf: Depending on the game, either complete and epic fail at everything it's supposed to do, or just complete and epic fail without conditionals.
FATAL: Exists.
Now, you were saying?
Hi Welcome
Let's review the competition:
1st edition, 2nd edition: Flat out doesn't cover all manner of things, breaks randomly, and in laughable ways.
Pathfailure: Already covered.
4.Fail: Breaks both in and out of combat, breaks if you ride a donkey, breaks if you play it, breaks if you don't play it, breaks if you look at it funny...
Shadowrun: Breaks if you do anything other than be Murdering Hobos at the deploy of an anonymous employer.
White Wolf: Depending on the game, either complete and epic fail at everything it's supposed to do, or just complete and epic fail without conditionals.
FATAL: Exists.
Now, you were saying?
A bit disingenuous, aren't you? Doesn't 3.5 break if anyone plays a caster?
Spirit of the Century and Savage Worlds are both better play experiences than 3.5. Mutants and Masterminds can easily be adapted to fantasy, even though the system is easy to abuse, the abuses are moderate and any archetype can get in on the action. Those are just the ones I've played in the last year, I can see why you'd think 3.5 is golden if all you've played is shit like nWoD.