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Play Like You Have To! => D&D Deliberations => : Prime32 June 16, 2008, 04:21:42 PM
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Have any?
Tome of Battle: The Book of Nine Swords and Player's Handbook 2 are popular choices.
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Magic of Incarnum is a very interesting book. The people I've talked to though went throught the same phases of it as me though (It is amazing, to ehh it blows, to ooooohhhh it's kinda neat, I think CO went through simmilar phases.).
ToM has some very interesting stuff under Binder which has some free online support too which is nice, the shadow magic part has some neat stuff in it and Truename magic has good...fluff.
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Magic of Incarnum, Unapproachable East, Expanded Psionics Handbook, and Races of Stone are all ones I'd recommend as being really fun.
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I really love Heroes of Horror. Most of it is the flavor and advice in the book. The nice thing about this, is the concepts in there are compatable with older/newer editions of D&D (or other games for that matter). It's hard to explian, but I really like that book.
I'm also a fan of most of the "complete" books. There are a lot of good feats and PrCs in those books.
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I really love Heroes of Horror. Most of it is the flavor and advice in the book. The nice thing about this, is the concepts in there are compatable with older/newer editions of D&D (or other games for that matter). It's hard to explian, but I really like that book.
I'm also a fan of most of the "complete" books. There are a lot of good feats and PrCs in those books.
+1 and PHBII and Races of Stone
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Magic of Incarnum is a very interesting book. The people I've talked to though went throught the same phases of it as me though (It is amazing, to ehh it blows, to ooooohhhh it's kinda neat, I think CO went through simmilar phases.).
ToM has some very interesting stuff under Binder which has some free online support too which is nice, the shadow magic part has some neat stuff in it and Truename magic has good...fluff.
Truenaming is ok if you allow a tweaked version of the Item Familiar feat to boost the skill checks with. MoI is simply godly when you figure out how it works. I think a 1/2 BAB class that can replace most of the Core Full BAB classes without using spells has some serious shit going for it, don't you?
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I only have Races of Stone and Races of Eberron, so I can't say much about their quality in relation to the rest of the series, but...
Get Races of Stone if you want to wear heavy armour. Or wield large weapons. Or cast illusion spells. Or cast illusion spells while wielding a large weapon in heavy armour.
The first wave of Completes were good, but as for the second...
I liked Complete Mage, but some people didn't. I believe that Complete Psionic was regarded as hit-and-miss. I managed to read some of Complete Champion, but there is a lot of (not fully usable) fluff and little crunch. I haven't heard much about Complete Scoundrel - the main reason people seem to pick it up is the skill tricks.
I liked Magic of Incarnum - I don't know how often I would use an incarnum class as the base of a build, but almost any character can benefit from it.
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Complete Psionic was "miss, missed more, and a few scattered hits." It may be the worst book in the entire 3.5 series.
I really don't like many of the Completes. There's a few scattered bits and pieces from each I would use, but the setting specific, as well as the other series (Setting, Races of), I find far better material.
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I don't think the OP was campaign specific so Im going to vote on players guide to faerun and heroes of horror
I really enjoyed the PGTF for its feats, prestiges and fluff and as for heroes of horror well it saved me the hassle of finding a copy of cuthulu d20 :)
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ToB, XPH, ToM in that order. RoS is quite good as well. HoH has some great stuff in it, but IMO is a "Complete" in disguise with the exception of dread necro. PH2 is... a bunch of feats and ACFs. Aside from the druid nerfs all you need can be found online. CMage is better than CArc IMO. RotW is almost as good as RoS. RotD is about equal with RotW.
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I just recently got the Magic Item Compendium to share between me and my players. Its nice to have.
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Spell Compendium ;)
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Recommendations for..
- fun during play - Magic of Incarnum and Tome of Battle.
- easy reference - Spell Compendium.
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The Rule Compendium is surprisingly useful, as over-priced as it might seem. Having one book with clearly written explanations for annoying rules really is a help at the gaming table. It's one of the books they squeezed out just before 4e was announced, so it was really just a repackaging of existing material, but still, useful.
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ToB, XPH, ToM in that order. RoS is quite good as well. HoH has some great stuff in it, but IMO is a "Complete" in disguise with the exception of dread necro. PH2 is... a bunch of feats and ACFs. Aside from the druid nerfs all you need can be found online. CMage is better than CArc IMO. RotW is almost as good as RoS. RotD is about equal with RotW.
I mostly agree. Except for PHB2 which also has the great Beguiler. I'd put ToM in front of XPH but that's because I always use the SRD for psionics !
CM and CA are complementary : Melodic Casting + Sublime Chord for Bards, Master Specialist + Io7V...
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+1 for Races of Stone, Dwarves rocks and so do gnomes and goliath, great fluff and solid crunch within :)
+1 for Heroes of Horror, I've been reading this book while I was working night-shift in a convenience store in the middle of an Industrial quarter. Yea, I locked the door. There is some really creepy stuff in it (What do you mean the horses ate our steaks ?) as well as the Dread Necromancer (personal favorite) and Archivist (everyone favorite "I can do it all" divine caster !)
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ToB, XPH, ToM in that order. RoS is quite good as well. HoH has some great stuff in it, but IMO is a "Complete" in disguise with the exception of dread necro. PH2 is... a bunch of feats and ACFs. Aside from the druid nerfs all you need can be found online. CMage is better than CArc IMO. RotW is almost as good as RoS. RotD is about equal with RotW.
I mostly agree. Except for PHB2 which also has the great Beguiler. I'd put ToM in front of XPH but that's because I always use the SRD for psionics !
CM and CA are complementary : Melodic Casting + Sublime Chord for Bards, Master Specialist + Io7V...
Fair enough.
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I really liked PHB 2
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I recommend PHB 2, Magic of Incarnum, Expanded Psionic Handbook, any of the Races books, Spell Compendium and the Magic Item Compendium.
If you are interested in none core books I recommend OGL Steampunk.
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MoI is extremely fun. All the flexibility of a full caster, without all the infinite titan loops and Balck Tentacles Stinking Cloud stunlocks that the DM spends all his time balancing out. The XPH is widely regarded as the most balanced book in the whole of 3.5, although the Soulknife is a tad weak. And I can't reccomend the Tome of Battle highly enough. Swordsages, Warblades and Crusaders are made of win. And they make sure that the Incarnate doesn't obsolete your melee characters. ;)
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MoI is extremely fun. All the flexibility of a full caster, without all the infinite titan loops and Balck Tentacles Stinking Cloud stunlocks that the DM spends all his time balancing out. The XPH is widely regarded as the most balanced book in the whole of 3.5, although the Soulknife is a tad weak. And I can't recommend the Tome of Battle highly enough. Swordsages, Warblades and Crusaders are made of win. And they make sure that the Incarnate doesn't obsolete your melee characters. ;)
Just make the Soulknife a full BAB class and it is fixed.
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ToB is probably the best 3.5 book out there. My swordsage leveled yesterday and I was reminded of how cool it was as I chose her new maneuvers. Fun classes, cool flavor...just a job well done.
I really liked Dragon Magic - the dragonfire adept is fun, the dragontouched races are cool, and the prestige classes are nifty. It mixes well with Races of the Dragon.
OH! And Dungeonscape is actually my favorite 3.5 book! Solid info for DMs, a pair of nifty PrCs, and some cool feats and alternate class features. Great stuff.
Also, as a GM I liked the first half of the DMG II - good, solid advice on DMing.
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Elder Evil and Exemplars of Evil (new books) are pretty nice as well, they can really bring more for your high level (18-20) game :)
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Ok, here it goes :P
-Tome of Battle (finally some versatility for beatsticks, and awesome fluff as well)
-Tome of Magic (Binder, 'nuff said ;))
-Magic of Incarnum (great options and versatility, new but still quite easy to learn/use)
-Expanded Psionic Handbook (plenty of options, easy to learn/use, and great fluff options)
-Eberron Campaign Setting (the most original and awesome campaign setting as far as I'm concerned)
-Dragon Magic (just love the Dragonfire Adept)
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I just ordered Heroes of Horror :D
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I just ordered Heroes of Horror :D
I bought that book the day before I bought the Tome of Battle (The second it was out).
My two favorite books.