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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #100 on: September 11, 2010, 09:14:23 PM »
Ooooooooo Phrenic is badass!! :thumb

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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #101 on: September 11, 2010, 09:19:48 PM »
Is there psionic-magic transparency?  Will Magic-in-the-Blood work on my racial psi-like abilities?

EDIT: That may be too strong... Switching to Phrenic Human.
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #102 on: September 12, 2010, 05:24:19 AM »
Magic/Psionic transparency, sure.

Magic-In-The-Blood, sure go ahead. I will remind you that I by no means go by the "standard" only 3-4 encounters per day, but it will increase you psi-like abilities to 3 times per day.

Also, I don't see why you'll prefer them as Psi-Like abilities, per my reading of the rules, you cannot spend "extra" power points to enhance Psi-Like abilities, they are the bland standard of the power making them less optimal than their equavilent powers.
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #103 on: September 12, 2010, 09:21:49 AM »
power is manifested as if the creature had spent a number of power points equal to its manifester level, which may augment the power to improve its damage or save DC. However, the creature does not actually spend power points for its psi-like abilities, even if it has a power point reserve due to racial abilities, class levels, or some other psionic ability."

There's room for interpretation on whether the bolded section also means other augmentations (on the defensive Psi-like abilities, for example); I read the intent of the rule as they can.  Also, it says that the powers "are standard actions unless otherwise noted", however there are powers on the list which are immediate actions and only last one round (obviously an oversight of this last statement), so I interpret "casting time" of those powers as an exception (there's only like 1 or 2 of these if I remember, and they're defensive buffs).

Also, there's wiggle room in stating that the abilities from a template don't apply to the Magic-in-the-Blood feat, but I think its a weak argument.

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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #104 on: September 12, 2010, 09:45:58 AM »
There's a few vestiges from the WotC site that I'd like access to:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frcc/20070718 <- this one I'd bind constantly, if available.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20070307a
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070119a
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dd/20060407a

Dungeon Mag #148 (Ahazu)
Dragon Mag #357 (Astaroth, again, Ansitif, Cabiri)
Dragon Magic (Ashardolon)
Dragon #341 (Primus and Kas)

I've got the info on these last 6 somewhere...  They aren't ones that I'd normally use.

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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #105 on: September 12, 2010, 11:23:42 AM »
I'm thinking, ain't it better to use Fiendform (Spell Compendium) to get the form of a Kelvezu (MM II) and persist it?

This guide says it's possible, but I don't find any reference of Kelvezu being an allowed form for Fiendform.

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=1240.0
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #106 on: September 12, 2010, 12:21:18 PM »
power is manifested as if the creature had spent a number of power points equal to its manifester level, which may augment the power to improve its damage or save DC. However, the creature does not actually spend power points for its psi-like abilities, even if it has a power point reserve due to racial abilities, class levels, or some other psionic ability."

There's room for interpretation on whether the bolded section also means other augmentations (on the defensive Psi-like abilities, for example); I read the intent of the rule as they can.  Also, it says that the powers "are standard actions unless otherwise noted", however there are powers on the list which are immediate actions and only last one round (obviously an oversight of this last statement), so I interpret "casting time" of those powers as an exception (there's only like 1 or 2 of these if I remember, and they're defensive buffs).

Also, there's wiggle room in stating that the abilities from a template don't apply to the Magic-in-the-Blood feat, but I think its a weak argument.

You are right, I haven't seen that.

Sure go ahead with enhanced Psi-Like abilities, I've been thinking they were terrible all this time when they really weren't.

I'm thinking, ain't it better to use Fiendform (Spell Compendium) to get the form of a Kelvezu (MM II) and persist it?

This guide says it's possible, but I don't find any reference of Kelvezu being an allowed form for Fiendform.

http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=1240.0

I think the guide is wrong, summoning a Kelvezu Demon with a summon monster V is probably hard.
I think the guide wants you to first use fiendform to become an outsider, and then polymorph into a Kelvezu. Which would require you to still Persist Polymorph.
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #107 on: September 12, 2010, 01:17:13 PM »
Yep you're right.

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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #108 on: September 12, 2010, 03:32:44 PM »
Here's my awesome character of awesomeness:
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #109 on: September 12, 2010, 09:37:44 PM »
A rather weird question: adamantine body says you are 'considered to wear heavy armor'. I want to enchant my composite plating. Do I have to pay the +15.000gp cost for enchanting an adamantine heavy armor?
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #110 on: September 12, 2010, 09:49:46 PM »
A rather weird question: adamantine body says you are 'considered to wear heavy armor'. I want to enchant my composite plating. Do I have to pay the +15.000gp cost for enchanting an adamantine heavy armor?

Well technically the +15.000 is for buying the Adamantine armour, and you don't really buy yourself.
You can just add enchantments to your "casing" but doing so will fill your "Docent" slot.
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #111 on: September 12, 2010, 09:56:43 PM »
Ehm, what does docent mean :P? I'm at a loss here.
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #112 on: September 12, 2010, 09:58:11 PM »
Ehm, what does docent mean :P? I'm at a loss here.

Since Warforged can't wear armor, they normally get an extra slot for an intelligent item.

If you choose to enhance your "armour", I will let it count as that slot. But at the base price for enchanting that armour ;).

That can probably still be said a lot clearer, but I'm tired :)
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #113 on: September 12, 2010, 10:04:56 PM »
Oh, now I got it. Just fyi, they can enchant it normally, based on ECS RAW.

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Composite Plating: The plating used to build a
warforged provides a +2 armor bonus. This plating
is not natural armor and does not stack with other
effects that give an armor bonus (other than natural
armor). This composite plating occupies the same
space on the body as a suit of armor or a robe, and
thus a warforged cannot wear armor or magic robes.
Warforged can be enchanted just as armor can be.
The character must be present for the entire time it
takes to enchant him.
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #114 on: September 12, 2010, 10:45:08 PM »
Oh, I didn't even think about Warforged as a race...  Phrenic Warforged of doom (tm)?

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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #115 on: September 12, 2010, 10:47:25 PM »
Can someone help me with spell choice? Thing is, I don't know what the best 3rd level or lower buffs are on the Cleric list. I can definitely handle Bard spells, though.
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #116 on: September 13, 2010, 06:54:23 AM »
Oh, now I got it. Just fyi, they can enchant it normally, based on ECS RAW.

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Composite Plating: The plating used to build a
warforged provides a +2 armor bonus. This plating
is not natural armor and does not stack with other
effects that give an armor bonus (other than natural
armor). This composite plating occupies the same
space on the body as a suit of armor or a robe, and
thus a warforged cannot wear armor or magic robes.
Warforged can be enchanted just as armor can be.
The character must be present for the entire time it
takes to enchant him.

Sorry, I was very tired yesterday, of course you can enchant yourself without paying the extra cost. Or paying the Docent slot.

You are welcome to play a Phrenic Warforged, but remember that you can only choose magic-in-the-blood and adamantine body on the first level, so you can't get both.
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #117 on: September 13, 2010, 07:04:57 AM »
Oh, now I got it. Just fyi, they can enchant it normally, based on ECS RAW.

Quote
Composite Plating: The plating used to build a
warforged provides a +2 armor bonus. This plating
is not natural armor and does not stack with other
effects that give an armor bonus (other than natural
armor). This composite plating occupies the same
space on the body as a suit of armor or a robe, and
thus a warforged cannot wear armor or magic robes.
Warforged can be enchanted just as armor can be.
The character must be present for the entire time it
takes to enchant him.

Sorry, I was very tired yesterday, of course you can enchant yourself without paying the extra cost. Or paying the Docent slot.

You are welcome to play a Phrenic Warforged, but remember that you can only choose magic-in-the-blood and adamantine body on the first level, so you can't get both.

No problem! I was tired myself. Btw, james asked about the phrenic warforged, however I did miss the "no flaws" part -__-
I'll have to move around my feats a little.

Wait, I just saw that we get one feat at each uneven level. And judging by the rest of the guys' character sheets, that's true.
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #118 on: September 13, 2010, 08:16:00 AM »
I'm guessing that you can't gain multiple [fighter] feats with additional Heroics castings.

Additionally, is using the trapsmith spell list allowed? I just want to use it for a wand of dimension door, nothing else.
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Re: A series of one off games.
« Reply #119 on: September 13, 2010, 08:40:23 AM »
What book is the Trapsmith in?

One feat on each uneven level, or an extra feat now and an extra feat on level 13 it is the same thing :)

I should probably write all this stuff in the OP.

Heroics doesn't stack with itself.
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