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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #640 on: July 22, 2010, 02:38:28 PM »
Powerful Build and Slight Build also remain.  I believe that's it.
I remember reading that. It's good to know. So basically I'll just make up a human then with these stats, and do up a regular dragonborn. Or maybe half-elf.

184 Hank's energy bow is a force bow made from magic missile and costs 22,600. Does it still work against golems that are immune to magic?
Yes. While MM is required to create it, it's not an item that casts/lets you cast MM.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #641 on: July 22, 2010, 02:39:18 PM »
Do they get it for free, seeing as it's kinda like their familiar, or do they have to pay for the extra cost?
Familiars cost 100 gp, you know...
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #642 on: July 22, 2010, 02:40:18 PM »
Do they get it for free, seeing as it's kinda like their familiar, or do they have to pay for the extra cost?
Familiars cost 100 gp, you know...
Not item familiars.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #643 on: July 22, 2010, 03:27:47 PM »
Q186:  Outside of the short bit in the ELH, is there any info in any other source on the Gloom?  I'm creating a Gloom PC and would love to know a bit more about them.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #644 on: July 22, 2010, 03:29:18 PM »
Do they get it for free, seeing as it's kinda like their familiar, or do they have to pay for the extra cost?
Familiars cost 100 gp, you know...
Not item familiars.

They have to pay.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #645 on: July 22, 2010, 03:30:29 PM »
Do they get it for free, seeing as it's kinda like their familiar, or do they have to pay for the extra cost?
Familiars cost 100 gp, you know...
Not item familiars.

They have to pay.
Thanks :)

Now, what's so bad about the Gun Mage? I've only really glanced over it so far...
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #646 on: July 22, 2010, 03:38:57 PM »
Do they get it for free, seeing as it's kinda like their familiar, or do they have to pay for the extra cost?
Familiars cost 100 gp, you know...
Not item familiars.

They have to pay.
Thanks :)

Now, what's so bad about the Gun Mage? I've only really glanced over it so far...

It boils down to being a Duskblade who can't Channel without spending two standard actions: cast & shot.
Alternatively, he can convert spells into damage for 1d6/spell level, with a max +3 enhancement to hit on lvl 18.
His max spell level is 6th, limited spells known.
Both abilities can only be used with Rune Bullets, which aren't hard to craft, but can become an issue.
All this coupled with d6, 2 skills/lvl, medium BAB and ony good Reflex save. Don't forget the fact that pistols require a standard action to reload.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #647 on: July 22, 2010, 03:42:04 PM »
Don't forget the fact that pistols require a standard action to reload.
Rapid Reload would help with that, but that means you'd have spent a feat.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #648 on: July 22, 2010, 03:45:18 PM »
Don't forget the fact that pistols require a standard action to reload.
Rapid Reload would help with that, but that means you'd have spent a feat.
Crossbow only.

Breachloading makes it a move action though.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #649 on: July 22, 2010, 03:47:07 PM »
Don't forget the fact that pistols require a standard action to reload.
Rapid Reload would help with that, but that means you'd have spent a feat.
Crossbow only.

Breachloading makes it a move action though.
I'd variant it since there's no gun specific ones, and it's what you use in d20 Modern. I mean, if you're allowing guns, Rapid Reload's gotta work for those too. You'd think there's something regarding that in the DMG under the gun rules.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #650 on: July 22, 2010, 04:35:43 PM »
Don't forget the fact that pistols require a standard action to reload.
Rapid Reload would help with that, but that means you'd have spent a feat.
Crossbow only.

Breachloading makes it a move action though.
I'd variant it since there's no gun specific ones, and it's what you use in d20 Modern. I mean, if you're allowing guns, Rapid Reload's gotta work for those too. You'd think there's something regarding that in the DMG under the gun rules.

Rapid reload got ruled not to work, so it is crossbow only.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #651 on: July 22, 2010, 04:49:09 PM »
Don't forget the fact that pistols require a standard action to reload.
Rapid Reload would help with that, but that means you'd have spent a feat.
Crossbow only.

Breachloading makes it a move action though.
I'd variant it since there's no gun specific ones, and it's what you use in d20 Modern. I mean, if you're allowing guns, Rapid Reload's gotta work for those too. You'd think there's something regarding that in the DMG under the gun rules.

Rapid reload got ruled not to work, so it is crossbow only.

Nevertheless, Gunmages suck. Hard.  :P

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #652 on: July 22, 2010, 04:50:59 PM »
Don't forget the fact that pistols require a standard action to reload.
Rapid Reload would help with that, but that means you'd have spent a feat.
Crossbow only.

Breachloading makes it a move action though.
I'd variant it since there's no gun specific ones, and it's what you use in d20 Modern. I mean, if you're allowing guns, Rapid Reload's gotta work for those too. You'd think there's something regarding that in the DMG under the gun rules.

Rapid reload got ruled not to work, so it is crossbow only.

Nevertheless, Gunmages suck. Hard.  :P

I disagree, but Littha uses houserules to make it better.   :P
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #653 on: July 22, 2010, 04:52:38 PM »
Don't forget the fact that pistols require a standard action to reload.
Rapid Reload would help with that, but that means you'd have spent a feat.
Crossbow only.

Breachloading makes it a move action though.
I'd variant it since there's no gun specific ones, and it's what you use in d20 Modern. I mean, if you're allowing guns, Rapid Reload's gotta work for those too. You'd think there's something regarding that in the DMG under the gun rules.

Rapid reload got ruled not to work, so it is crossbow only.

Nevertheless, Gunmages suck. Hard.  :P

I disagree, but Littha uses houserules to make it better.   :P

Then I'm very intrested in those houserules, as one of my players insists on playing one, but he'll also starts whining when someone with a bow outshouts him.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #654 on: July 22, 2010, 05:26:38 PM »
Don't forget the fact that pistols require a standard action to reload.
Rapid Reload would help with that, but that means you'd have spent a feat.
Crossbow only.

Breachloading makes it a move action though.
I'd variant it since there's no gun specific ones, and it's what you use in d20 Modern. I mean, if you're allowing guns, Rapid Reload's gotta work for those too. You'd think there's something regarding that in the DMG under the gun rules.

Rapid reload got ruled not to work, so it is crossbow only.

Nevertheless, Gunmages suck. Hard.  :P

I disagree, but Littha uses houserules to make it better.   :P

Then I'm very intrested in those houserules, as one of my players insists on playing one, but he'll also starts whining when someone with a bow outshouts him.
Ofcourse that's (also) because bows are superior to guns in D&D :)
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #655 on: July 22, 2010, 05:28:26 PM »
Don't forget the fact that pistols require a standard action to reload.
Rapid Reload would help with that, but that means you'd have spent a feat.
Crossbow only.

Breachloading makes it a move action though.
I'd variant it since there's no gun specific ones, and it's what you use in d20 Modern. I mean, if you're allowing guns, Rapid Reload's gotta work for those too. You'd think there's something regarding that in the DMG under the gun rules.

Rapid reload got ruled not to work, so it is crossbow only.

Nevertheless, Gunmages suck. Hard.  :P

I disagree, but Littha uses houserules to make it better.   :P

Then I'm very intrested in those houserules, as one of my players insists on playing one, but he'll also starts whining when someone with a bow outshouts him.

They're foundhere.  Littha has approved:
- Increased skill points per level (2 to 6)
- Increased hit die (d6 to d8)
- Increased spells per day (the origional class maxes out at 4 for every spell level)
- Good will save instead of poor will save
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #656 on: July 22, 2010, 05:52:00 PM »
Thanks, but it still suffers from the bad action usage + lack of full attacking.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #657 on: July 22, 2010, 05:57:21 PM »
Thanks, but it still suffers from the bad action usage + lack of full attacking.

Meh, there are feats and prestige classes that fix that.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #658 on: July 22, 2010, 05:58:18 PM »
Thanks, but it still suffers from the bad action usage + lack of full attacking.

Meh, there are feats and prestige classes that fix that.

Like? Still, this reinforces that it's a poor class.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question: Singing Tesla Coil Edition
« Reply #659 on: July 22, 2010, 06:00:19 PM »
Thanks, but it still suffers from the bad action usage + lack of full attacking.

Meh, there are feats and prestige classes that fix that.

Like? Still, this reinforces that it's a poor class.

If you don't like it then don't play it.  I'm not going to point out all of the official source material for you.
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