A new spin on an old class?

[jeffrie]

@Solo

Vecna Blooded Template +1 give the absolute total negation of all forms of detection. Tell your DM but not the players. That and a couple of illusions/etc, and they won't even know who you are or where your at. You can scry them at will, and make them think they can scry you.

[X-Codes]

Here's the thing; I'd love to make a buffing build, but the other party members are evil and have displayed a tendency towards Chaotic Stupid, and I need to be able to take on likely 3 of them, possibly 4, if it comes to that.

So far, they are a Paladin of Slaughter, a Rogue, and another cleric. However, I have suggested that the Paladin take the Blackguard class and the Cleric take the Death and Destruction domain in order to lower their power level while appearing to be helpful. The Rogue plans on going into Assassin and using Death Attack, but at the same time does not consider himself to be a combat specialist and has geared himself towards social encounters - doesn't even have ranks in UMD or Tumble.

I figure the most trouble I will have is with the Psion, who I have given actual optimization advice to, but he seems to be neutral and friendly with me in game and IRL, so I might be able to expect him as an ally should I lay the smack down on the rest of the party.

At this point I'd like to point out that these characters, while likely having solid saves, will probably have no immunity whatsoever to poison.  Take Spit Poison and get some method of putting the Paladin in one of your AMFs.  It will also suppress his double Charisma to saves and keep him earthbound, so just stay airborne with something like Infernal Transformation and spit poison at him until he dies.  The other Cleric can be dispatched with a similar treatment, although the Rogue might be a bit more difficult to hit.  For him, cast Hold Monster and CDG him with your Parching Touch spell until he dies from poison/CDG/Damage/whatever.

[Lycanthromancer]

Yes, but I'd like to be able to kill them if they start attacking the queen in her courtroom.

That's when you start buffing the other side and make it clear where your loyalties lie (to them, at least).

Also, get an awesome familiar, don't ban Conjuration, and start buffing the critters you've previously Planar Bound and stuffed in your Enveloping Pit for future conquests.

[Solo]

Here's the thing; I'd love to make a buffing build, but the other party members are evil and have displayed a tendency towards Chaotic Stupid, and I need to be able to take on likely 3 of them, possibly 4, if it comes to that.

So far, they are a Paladin of Slaughter, a Rogue, and another cleric. However, I have suggested that the Paladin take the Blackguard class and the Cleric take the Death and Destruction domain in order to lower their power level while appearing to be helpful. The Rogue plans on going into Assassin and using Death Attack, but at the same time does not consider himself to be a combat specialist and has geared himself towards social encounters - doesn't even have ranks in UMD or Tumble.

I figure the most trouble I will have is with the Psion, who I have given actual optimization advice to, but he seems to be neutral and friendly with me in game and IRL, so I might be able to expect him as an ally should I lay the smack down on the rest of the party.

At this point I'd like to point out that these characters, while likely having solid saves, will probably have no immunity whatsoever to poison.  Take Spit Poison and get some method of putting the Paladin in one of your AMFs.  It will also suppress his double Charisma to saves and keep him earthbound, so just stay airborne with something like Infernal Transformation and spit poison at him until he dies.  The other Cleric can be dispatched with a similar treatment, although the Rogue might be a bit more difficult to hit.  For him, cast Hold Monster and CDG him with your Parching Touch spell until he dies from poison/CDG/Damage/whatever.

I noticed that they do have quite good saves...

And they suck at hitting things in combat. Seriously, we ran a practice session and they had trouble hitting AC 20 at level 4.

I figure I'll open up combat by flying (that thing that they can't do) then getting a Girallon's blessing going whilst mostly immune to their attacks, and opening up a can of Ice Slick on the Paladin (balance checks to move off of the 20 ft square of ice), Hold Person on the Rogue, then land to deliver a Shivering Touch on the enemy cleric. CDG the rogue while the Paladin's suffering ACP on top of low Dex to make the balance check, then face in in 1 on 1 combat because of the Travel domain's granted power that makes me immune to my own Ice Slick.

[Bester]

then land to deliver a Shivering Touch on the enemy cleric.

If I were going the shivering touch route, I'd spring that little gem on them first.  I suspect they will surrender without you doing anything else.  I know I would.
Shivering Touch is an I win button after all.

Or, instead, maybe you could say "I got this one guys" before the evil party talks to any important NPC.  I did that for a while in a game were my character was a changeling shapechange ranger/old style shifter prc.  Played it up as I was their prisoner/hostage, and talked NPCs into more helpful positions.  The dm liked it, the party hated it after they found out my guy could decimate the entire party(so much so the group wanted me to change characters).  Never needed to use any of my powers except to change form to get around obstacles.  "I'll find another way up this mountain, later guys.  You have the keys to my cuffs right?"  Evil party or even party on party can work if the dm runs arenas every few games.  Gets the animosity out.

[Lycanthromancer]

Maybe you could make a diplomancer and threaten to talk to their parents if they molest you?

[Solo]

then land to deliver a Shivering Touch on the enemy cleric.

If I were going the shivering touch route, I'd spring that little gem on them first.  I suspect they will surrender without you doing anything else.  I know I would.
Shivering Touch is an I win button after all.

Actually, since I have two Shivering Touches, I can probably take out the Cleric and Paladin consecutively.

Knowledge Devotion works on Shivering Touch, right?

[Mooncrow]

then land to deliver a Shivering Touch on the enemy cleric.

If I were going the shivering touch route, I'd spring that little gem on them first.  I suspect they will surrender without you doing anything else.  I know I would.
Shivering Touch is an I win button after all.

Actually, since I have two Shivering Touches, I can probably take out the Cleric and Paladin consecutively.

Knowledge Devotion works on Shivering Touch, right?

Typically, "damage" is considered a separate thing from "ability damage"

[KellKheraptis]

Chain it in round two from Metamagic effect because you took Incantatrix 3?  Then ALL of them are no save crippled.

[nightshade]

Bard/Druid with Boomerang Daze and Greenbound Summoning?