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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #480 on: January 05, 2011, 09:40:58 PM »
Dragonborn template gives new aging table, though I don't know if that was mentioned already or not.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #481 on: January 05, 2011, 10:06:41 PM »
The SRD website is kind of dumb about replacing the first RHD; the actual books don't mention humanoids at all - much like the whole "dex0=paralysis", they just screwed up when they transferred the info.

Actually what I quoted was from the glossary of my monster manual...

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #482 on: January 05, 2011, 10:17:28 PM »
I'm talking about monsters as player characters (DMG 172)
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #483 on: January 06, 2011, 12:03:55 AM »
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #485 on: January 06, 2011, 12:17:15 AM »
I have a vague recollection of a bow with mechanical assistance built in.  Some sort of non-magical/clockwork/alchemical thing.  I think it let you treat your strength as higher if you took longer to fire it.  I seem to remember the fluff saying something about gnomes.  Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I've been searching through the Wizards site and old Dragon magazines, but I can't find it. 

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #486 on: January 06, 2011, 12:18:28 AM »
I have a vague recollection of a bow with mechanical assistance built in.  Some sort of non-magical/clockwork/alchemical thing.  I think it let you treat your strength as higher if you took longer to fire it.  I seem to remember the fluff saying something about gnomes.  Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I've been searching through the Wizards site and old Dragon magazines, but I can't find it. 
gnome steambow. Can't recall source, though.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #487 on: January 06, 2011, 12:23:53 AM »
I have a vague recollection of a bow with mechanical assistance built in.  Some sort of non-magical/clockwork/alchemical thing.  I think it let you treat your strength as higher if you took longer to fire it.  I seem to remember the fluff saying something about gnomes.  Does this ring a bell for anyone?  I've been searching through the Wizards site and old Dragon magazines, but I can't find it. 
gnome steambow. Can't recall source, though.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #488 on: January 06, 2011, 12:57:30 AM »
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #489 on: January 06, 2011, 04:14:21 AM »
I would like to chime in and note that DWK's aging as dragons being commonly accepted means neither that it's right nor that it's what a DM would accept.  In fact, the Dragonwrought feat does very little to the aging process of a Kobold: eliminating aging penalties and extending the ultimate lifespan of the kobold by a small amount.  It does not cause you to gain age categories as a true dragon.

As for other templates, a fluff argument could be made for gaining the mental bonuses on-schedule for undead templates, and not taking the physical penalties.  In pretty much every other case, however, there are simply no rules at all regarding what happens to a creature's age categories once you stick a template on it.  Not even in Savage Species.
Check RotD again, kobold age section. DWK speciically run off another aging table that has dragon age categories.
Actually all kobolds use that table. They also have the normal Aging effects table that dictates when they gain stat bonuses & penalties.

Interestingly I found a partial answer to my question. RotD p61 under death states that Half-Dragons live longer than thier base race but don't live as long as dragons. It even calls out pairing between an elf and a dragon can create a half-dragon that can live as long as a great wyrm.
In other words, the first table is fluff, the second is mechanics.
If it's a table, it's not fluff.  All Kobolds have 12 age categories (the same 12 as Dragons, I might add).  That said, this is irrelevant to the question.

While I'm pretty sure that many templates change the creature's lifespan, I can't think of any at all that have an actual listing of by how much (except undead templates which are indefinitely).
What about the table on page 128 of the DMG?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #490 on: January 06, 2011, 04:15:36 AM »
Q136: If you're an Strength 8 weakling druid who spends most of his time in Str 19 black bear form, could you take a strength-prereq feat like Knockdown?  (Yes, I know, probably DM adjucation.  But is there a RAW ruling I could point to?  Or, heck, even a Sage ruling?)

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #491 on: January 06, 2011, 04:18:17 AM »
Q136: If you're an Strength 8 weakling druid who spends most of his time in Str 19 black bear form, could you take a strength-prereq feat like Knockdown?  (Yes, I know, probably DM adjucation.  But is there a RAW ruling I could point to?  Or, heck, even a Sage ruling?)
I would say yes, but it would only kick in when you had that STR. It's like how people do the War Hulk PrC, which requires you to be Large size more bigger, but only have access to it when they grow to that size.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #492 on: January 06, 2011, 06:04:41 AM »
Q136: If you're an Strength 8 weakling druid who spends most of his time in Str 19 black bear form, could you take a strength-prereq feat like Knockdown?  (Yes, I know, probably DM adjucation.  But is there a RAW ruling I could point to?  Or, heck, even a Sage ruling?)
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #493 on: January 06, 2011, 09:06:36 AM »
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #494 on: January 06, 2011, 12:15:33 PM »
What about the table on page 128 of the DMG?
All right, I'll revise, then.  If it isn't explicitly fluff and it's a table, then it's not fluff.  Given Races of the Dragon Table 3-2 is not explicitly fluff, then it must be mechanics.  It just rarely comes up (a lot like character height or weight in this regard).  For example, if there was an item that could only be used by dragons of at least Young Adult age, then Kobolds of at least 6 years of age could use it too (remember their Dragonblood subtype).
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #495 on: January 06, 2011, 03:35:07 PM »
Q136: If you're an Strength 8 weakling druid who spends most of his time in Str 19 black bear form, could you take a strength-prereq feat like Knockdown?  (Yes, I know, probably DM adjucation.  But is there a RAW ruling I could point to?  Or, heck, even a Sage ruling?)
I would say yes, but it would only kick in when you had that STR. It's like how people do the War Hulk PrC, which requires you to be Large size more bigger, but only have access to it when they grow to that size.

On that note, if you're only eligible for a prestige class half the time, do you lose things like BAB and saves as well as class features when you don't have the prerequisites? Figure something interesting could be done with War Hulk and that thing that makes you grow a size when raging.

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #496 on: January 06, 2011, 03:37:07 PM »
Q136: If you're an Strength 8 weakling druid who spends most of his time in Str 19 black bear form, could you take a strength-prereq feat like Knockdown?  (Yes, I know, probably DM adjucation.  But is there a RAW ruling I could point to?  Or, heck, even a Sage ruling?)
I would say yes, but it would only kick in when you had that STR. It's like how people do the War Hulk PrC, which requires you to be Large size more bigger, but only have access to it when they grow to that size.

On that note, if you're only eligible for a prestige class half the time, do you lose things like BAB and saves as well as class features when you don't have the prerequisites? Figure something interesting could be done with War Hulk and that thing that makes you grow a size when raging.

Theoretically, BAB and saves != class features. Closest thing I can think of is ex-paladin - retain saves, BAB and HD, lose turning/spellcasting/auras/special mount reverts to regular horsie/etc.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #497 on: January 06, 2011, 03:38:01 PM »
Q136: If you're an Strength 8 weakling druid who spends most of his time in Str 19 black bear form, could you take a strength-prereq feat like Knockdown?  (Yes, I know, probably DM adjucation.  But is there a RAW ruling I could point to?  Or, heck, even a Sage ruling?)
I would say yes, but it would only kick in when you had that STR. It's like how people do the War Hulk PrC, which requires you to be Large size more bigger, but only have access to it when they grow to that size.

On that note, if you're only eligible for a prestige class half the time, do you lose things like BAB and saves as well as class features when you don't have the prerequisites? Figure something interesting could be done with War Hulk and that thing that makes you grow a size when raging.
Yes you would lose them, but you'd still have the levels. It'd be like being a fallen paladin, but worse. Like you suddenly have negative levels that only go away when you meet the prereqs. But War Hulk doesn't have BAB. It's +0 each level, but you get +2 STR each level.
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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #498 on: January 06, 2011, 03:55:20 PM »
Q138

I am confused on this so help me out.  If I go for a build like say cloistered cleric 2, church inquistioner 2, cloistered cleric 2, divine oracle 2, crusader 1, rkv 10 and contemplative 1 I, so far, amd caster level 17.  If I take practiced spell caster I am a CL 20 and I don't get 9th level spells, assuming i have 19 wis at this point?

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Re: Ask a Simple Question 21: Dunkadooballs!
« Reply #499 on: January 06, 2011, 04:01:51 PM »
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Assuming I read it right, with cleric 17 casting, yes you would have level 9 spells.

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