OOC banter

[bogsnes]

Agreed on the Dark Beguiler.

I'll see if I can get my hands on Elder Evils, Phaedrus

It'll be either Dark or Draconic Beguiler... Dark gives bonuses to stealth, but a Con and Cha boost could also be useful... I am not sure... It is hard to decide...

I think I will be a dark Beguiler if Beguilers can be dark...

[bogsnes]

I have finished making my backstory:

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His father got killed when Dareidor was very young since he stole some food from a store and got caught. His mother got killed of some guards that wanted to have fun. Dareidor was underestimated a lot when he grew up in his school, because of his race, and because of his parents, and was bullied with a lot, so he spent a lot of time on learning to show that he was not inferior to the others, but superior. After a while, he started to get crazy. He wanted to be superior to the other kids in all possible ways.

So he found a Factotum master to teach him, but his master was also secretly a Death Knight. His master tricked him slow and steady into being evil. After a while Dareidor realized what was happening, and surprisingly, he liked it. And as his master always said: "Evil wins, because Good is stupid". But due to his superior intellect, after a while, Dareidor felt superior even to his new master, so he decided to find someone that he actually could learn something from, so he left his master to go on new adventures.

Often when he got to cities, he got bullyed by people because of his race, but those that did that were captured by him, bound in ropes, and then first he proved himself to be much smarter (and if there was something they knew that he didn't, he had even learned something new), then he tortured them a while, before he killed them. This happened in many towns before he found the Duke of Logic, Caim and he was willing to take him to Dis. Dareidor wanted to go to Dis because of that there hopefully was someone in the city that was at least almost as smart as him.

He liked being in Dis, and he used some time on crafting, and he learned to throw Shurikens very effectively with his tail. He did also show everyone that Beguilers aren't stupid, but instead smarter than regular humanoids. He liked the way Dispater was, and started to worship him. The thing he has missed most in Dis, though, is toruring people. But he does still think that it is worth it, and he will do almost anything Dispater says to him. He does also talk a lot, and likes to learn new stuff in any possible subject. He hasn't got any last name that he can remember, and even if he had, he would prefer to hold it a secret.
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And I am almost done with making him (has 6.4kgp left, and could need a weapon, and has an open spell slot, but not much more than that...

[Tshern]

As a suggestion, meeting a Duke of Hell is a lot more likely than meeting an archdevil, as the latter are very unlikely to ever come to the Mortal Coil, especially Dispater's archdevils, who are pretty much guaranteed not to leave Dis. His Duke of Logic, Caim, however is roaming the Mortal Coil all the time...

[bogsnes]

As a suggestion, meeting a Duke of Hell is a lot more likely than meeting an archdevil, as the latter are very unlikely to ever come to the Mortal Coil, especially Dispater's archdevils, who are pretty much guaranteed not to leave Dis. His Duke of Logic, Caim, however is roaming the Mortal Coil all the time...

Okay, will change that

[bogsnes]

I just got the idea of creating minions

Is it worth the money and space?
And does greater magic fang affect all or only one natural weapon (thinking if I should permanency it)?

[Tshern]

IIRC it effects all weapons of the same type. Superior magic fang, Druid 4, effects all.

[bogsnes]

IIRC it effects all weapons of the same type. Superior magic fang, Druid 4, effects all.

Okay, but I've decided not to use it, because it if gets dispelled, I have used lots of wealth on nothing...

[PhaedrusXY]

IIRC it effects all weapons of the same type. Superior magic fang, Druid 4, effects all.

Okay, but I've decided not to use it, because it if gets dispelled, I have used lots of wealth on nothing...

You might consider a custom item that casts it every day, if Tshern will allow one. Or if you can use gauntlets or something, we can hit those with a Greater Magic Weapon (especially once Bowen can Chain it for us ).

Edit: Or get a Necklace of Natural Attacks (Savage Species). Those are a cheap and awesome way to magically enhance your natural weapons.

[BowenSilverclaw]

Wow, you really don't like your buffs, do you Phaedrus?

[bogsnes]

well, it is not that important, since I am almost out of money, and will mainly be throwing shurikens.
also, when will we start?
I've only got 282 pp left to spend, and then I am ready.
And does anyone need some black lotus poison? (I feel like it is a waste to shrink everything, since even though letting my opponents roll 10500 DC20 Fort saves is very fun one/day, 500 doses to or from doesn't probably do anything (to survive they does either have to have a Con of about 5000ish, be immune, or not fail on a natural one assuming I hit them...))
I am thinking that my last spell will be either Alter Self, a solid buff, or some REALLY useful stuff

[PhaedrusXY]

well, it is not that important, since I am almost out of money, and will mainly be throwing shurikens.
also, when will we start?
I've only got 282 pp left to spend, and then I am ready.
And does anyone need some black lotus poison? (I feel like it is a waste to shrink everything, since even though letting my opponents roll 10500 DC20 Fort saves is very fun one/day, 500 doses to or from doesn't probably do anything (to survive they does either have to have a Con of about 5000ish, be immune, or not fail on a natural one assuming I hit them...))
I am thinking that my last spell will be either Alter Self, a solid buff, or some REALLY useful stuff

So want the Greater Magic Weapon on 50 shuriken?

There are a few magical beast forms in the Alter Self thread under familiars: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=176246

I might stick some poison on my weapon. You have Minor Creation as a spell, I'm guessing?

[Tshern]

Regarding Black Lotus Poison: Once you use it, it can be used against you.

[BowenSilverclaw]

In other words, don't

Same reason I'm not abusing Polymorph

[PhaedrusXY]

Regarding Black Lotus Poison: Once you use it, it can be used against you.

Maybe I should stick that Extended Heroes Feast back on my list of prepared spells.

Eh, Polymorph isn't that bad. Not as bad as regularly dumping gallons of lethal poison on someone, anyway. And I think my use of Magic Jar goes way beyond what Polymorph can typically do... And aren't other people in the group already using Polymorph? I saw one person's sheet had them running around polymorphed into a bearded devil or something.

[BowenSilverclaw]

Yes please

[bogsnes]

Regarding Black Lotus Poison: Once you use it, it can be used against you.

well, I guess I'll have to get immunity to it or something...
does multiple snakeblood tooths created togheter stack?
and is this any use of it, or just the 10500 Fort saves part?

oh, and can I draw items sheath items as a free action with quick draw, or is it only drawing them?

[BowenSilverclaw]

Regarding Black Lotus Poison: Once you use it, it can be used against you.

well, I guess I'll have to get immunity to it or something...

Yeah, and what about the rest of the party?

Also, RAW Quick Draw only works on WEAPONS

[skydragonknight]

Alrighty, these went unnoticed in the midst of the other new guys spamming questions:

-still waiting on permission to use deformities other than the ones in Elder Evils: by level 20 I want to be a freakshow.
-"Lesser Infernal Armor": evil-flavored Celestial Armor(DMG) but +1 instead of +3(14400 gold instead of 22400 gold; also pending DM permission)

Request: Eldritch Chain, Vitriolic Blast(when I get it) and invocations which use "Warlock Level" use "Warlock Caster Level" instead. Eldritch Blast still uses Effective Warlock Level for invocations unless DM is crazy/generous and let's it use caster level.

Question(because this will come up in game otherwise): Does Eldritch Glaive gain additional attacks from Haste/Righteous Wrath of the Faithful. Text only mentions additional attacks from BAB and makes no mention of additional attacks one way or the other.

[PhaedrusXY]

Yeah, and what about the rest of the party?

Also, RAW Quick Draw only works on WEAPONS

I'll exchange greater plane shift for Extended Heroes' Feast, so we'll all have immunity to fear and poison 24/7, if we can spare an hour a day to eat it. I'll keep one Plane Shift prepped. The rest of you guys will have to handle the travel, otherwise.

I think RAW, you can use Quick Draw on weapon-like objects, too, like staves, wands, and potions (they're like alchemical weapon vials). You can't sheathe anything as a free action, though.

[BowenSilverclaw]

Yeah, and what about the rest of the party?

Also, RAW Quick Draw only works on WEAPONS

I'll exchange greater plane shift for Extended Heroes' Feast, so we'll all have immunity to fear and poison 24/7, if we can spare an hour a day to eat it. I'll keep one Plane Shift prepped. The rest of you guys will have to handle the travel, otherwise.

I'll have to wait another 2 levels for Plane Shift. I can prepare a Teleport though, although that would only allow me to bring along 3 other people at the moment...

Anyone else willing to prep the second one so we can bring along the entire party? Irthos perhaps?