Do we have a dirty trick handbook?

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Double post for clarity:

I gotta say I agree with Agita on this one. Doesn't really seem al too subjective to me...

Nope I agree with Surreal

I knew I'd forgotten something... >_> Yeah, you'll also need Ocular spell. Heh.

I noticed the problem agita found as soon as it was posted. Has anyone actually seen a DM allow ocular spell with DMM+persist? That's getting into twice-betrayer territory...

you know who should proofread stuff?
WE should!

Or atleast a small group of us... anyone on the board who was atleast a few long/useful threads used as resources for the whole. Surreal would be in there in a jiffy.

You know, come to think of it, I can do better on the contact other planes shenanigans.


Make a numbered list of questions, with each question twice the value of the previous.  For example

1: What spell should I prepare in my first ninth level slot?
2: What would be the cost of the material component to cast trap the soul on the undead opponent I'm going to next face?
4: Who stole the cookies from the cookie jar?
8: What color is the best for my room?
16: And so on

Then ask "What is the sum of the values of the four questions that would most benefit me to ask?"  

Then convert it to binary, look up the index, surprise!  You have a DMG embedded in your face.

Damn, that's pretty genius. What do you do for a living?

This is the same as numbering the questions and asking for, one by one, the number of the 4 questions you should as. Neither of these tactics get over the 'value' or 'index' ambiguity asked in the question.

[PhaedrusXY]

This is the same as numbering the questions and asking for, one by one, the number of the 4 questions you should as. Neither of these tactics get over the 'value' or 'index' ambiguity asked in the question.

I'm sorry, what? What ambiguity?

[The_Mad_Linguist]

And it *does* get you more data.


If the number returned is 14, for example, in binary that's 1110, and corresponds to questions with value 2,4 and 8.  This is strictly better, as you get three times the bang for your buck.

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

um... yeah i know how binary works. I realize that this is the internet and all but I majored in mathematics.

I don't know the spell's specifics but the information 14 is about the same as '1,3,4,7' (if you asked 7 questions and indexed them normally).

[Prime32]

You can do it more simply. Number them like this:
1
10
100
1000
etc.

[Kuroimaken]

What the FUCK are you mathophiles talking about?

(If 'mathophile' is a word, it makes me wonder how on earth one conceives number porn being 69.)

[Prime32]

What the FUCK are you mathophiles talking about?

Write out a numbered list of questions, then ask for the sum of the numbers of the three most useful questions.

The trick is numbering them in a way which lets you tell which questions they are from the sum (ie. so that the answer will be made of 1s and 0s). Double the next number in the sequence for base 2, multiply by 10 for base 10, etc.

For example
1
10
100
1000
10000
100000
If the sum of the most useful answers is 101001, then the three most useful questions are 1, 1000 and 100000.


The binary version
1
2
4
8
16
32
Assuming the same questions are best, you will get a result of 41. Converted to binary, that's 101001. This is more likely to slip past the DM than the decimal version.

[Lycanthromancer]

Do you want to create a super-huge object in very little time?

Take a pile of the raw materials (let's say stone), and fabricate it into one or more large blocks.

Cast shrink item (and permanency, if you so desire) to turn the uber-large blocks into uber-small blocks.

Fabricate into a fully-functional scale-model of what you want (let's say a castle). Take 10 on your Crafting check, and make sure to have as many bonuses as you need. Should only take a few rounds to a few minutes, though it does depend on the size of the finished product.

Dismiss shrink item. Voila! You can create a full-sized castle in just a few minutes, max.

You can do this for castles, houses, ships, walls, and any other structures you can think of.

[Chemus]

That works except that you have to dispel the effect, and have it be your spell to get them all at once.

[Kuroimaken]

That works except that you have to dispel the effect, and have it be your spell to get them all at once.

Shrink Item is dismissable, isn't it?

[Dumb-Age Master]

From the SRD:

Knock-Down [General]
Prerequisites

Base attack bonus +2, Improved Trip, Str 15.
Benefit

Whenever you deal 10 or more points of damage to your opponent in melee, you make a trip attack as a free action against the same target.

Now, is it just me, or does the wording there allow for Improved Trip to make an additional attack?

This essentially doubles the number of melee attacks you can make in a round, so long as your damage output is 10 or more (which is REALLY easy to get)?

This shows promise...

I know this is old, but I'd like to hit this up. It's been stated officially that Improved Trip's extra attack only comes into play if you specifically just try and trip, not when you trip through Knock-Down.

I'm too lazy to re-find the source, but yeah, this won't work.

Also to state another thing with Knock-Down that some people may be confused about, I know I was, is that it can't trigger Cleave.

Just letting you all know.

[Kuroimaken]

From the SRD:

Knock-Down [General]
Prerequisites

Base attack bonus +2, Improved Trip, Str 15.
Benefit

Whenever you deal 10 or more points of damage to your opponent in melee, you make a trip attack as a free action against the same target.

Now, is it just me, or does the wording there allow for Improved Trip to make an additional attack?

This essentially doubles the number of melee attacks you can make in a round, so long as your damage output is 10 or more (which is REALLY easy to get)?

This shows promise...

I know this is old, but I'd like to hit this up. It's been stated officially that Improved Trip's extra attack only comes into play if you specifically just try and trip, not when you trip through Knock-Down.

I'm too lazy to re-find the source, but yeah, this won't work.

Also to state another thing with Knock-Down that some people may be confused about, I know I was, is that it can't trigger Cleave.

Just letting you all know.

I figured it didn't since the wording on Cleave specifically mentions "dropping" creatures as a result of hit points reaching zero...

[Lycanthromancer]

From the SRD:

Knock-Down [General]
Prerequisites

Base attack bonus +2, Improved Trip, Str 15.
Benefit

Whenever you deal 10 or more points of damage to your opponent in melee, you make a trip attack as a free action against the same target.

Now, is it just me, or does the wording there allow for Improved Trip to make an additional attack?

This essentially doubles the number of melee attacks you can make in a round, so long as your damage output is 10 or more (which is REALLY easy to get)?

This shows promise...

I know this is old, but I'd like to hit this up. It's been stated officially that Improved Trip's extra attack only comes into play if you specifically just try and trip, not when you trip through Knock-Down.

I'm too lazy to re-find the source, but yeah, this won't work.

Also to state another thing with Knock-Down that some people may be confused about, I know I was, is that it can't trigger Cleave.

Just letting you all know.

Unless it's in errata, it doesn't matter if it's 'official' or not. CustServe is official, but if it counts as well, we can make whatever rulings on it we like, because they give antipodally-conflicting answers All. The. Time.

[Dumb-Age Master]

From the SRD:

Knock-Down [General]
Prerequisites

Base attack bonus +2, Improved Trip, Str 15.
Benefit

Whenever you deal 10 or more points of damage to your opponent in melee, you make a trip attack as a free action against the same target.

Now, is it just me, or does the wording there allow for Improved Trip to make an additional attack?

This essentially doubles the number of melee attacks you can make in a round, so long as your damage output is 10 or more (which is REALLY easy to get)?

This shows promise...

I know this is old, but I'd like to hit this up. It's been stated officially that Improved Trip's extra attack only comes into play if you specifically just try and trip, not when you trip through Knock-Down.

I'm too lazy to re-find the source, but yeah, this won't work.

Also to state another thing with Knock-Down that some people may be confused about, I know I was, is that it can't trigger Cleave.

Just letting you all know.

Unless it's in errata, it doesn't matter if it's 'official' or not. CustServe is official, but if it counts as well, we can make whatever rulings on it we like, because they give antipodally-conflicting answers All. The. Time.

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/WTC11829%20_SnF_Weberrata.pdf

Here you are, good sir.

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

It was slightly mentioned before but in lieu of this thread, I figured I'd post a very dirt version here:

How to multi-pounce without shadow-pounce

Get WS with Lion's Pounce (not hard)
Get Psionics Lion Charge and Linked Power (fairly easy)
Get ML of four and 7pp (still not hard)
Be a pouncing Barbarian (easy)
Grab a belt of battle or be an RKV for an extra swift action (eh)

Round 1: Manifest a cheap power (expansion anyone?) linked to psionic lion's charge
Round 2: thanks to your 2 swift actions: charge via pounce, manifest your psionic lion's charge, spend a WS use for the Lion's pounce feat, and wait for the linked psionic lion's charge to kick in
... for your fourth full attack.

[Echoes]

It was slightly mentioned before but in lieu of this thread, I figured I'd post a very dirt version here:

How to multi-pounce without shadow-pounce

Get WS with Lion's Pounce (not hard)
Get Psionics Lion Charge and Linked Power (fairly easy)
Get ML of four and 7pp (still not hard)
Be a pouncing Barbarian (easy)
Grab a belt of battle or be an RKV for an extra swift action (eh)

Round 1: Manifest a cheap power (expansion anyone?) linked to psionic lion's charge
Round 2: thanks to your 2 swift actions: charge via pounce, manifest your psionic lion's charge, spend a WS use for the Lion's pounce feat, and wait for the linked psionic lion's charge to kick in
... for your fourth full attack.

Another method is to take Battle Jump. Use your Standard action to leap at least 5 ft. above your opponent, triggering Battle Jump. Do the same thing with your Move action. If you have Swift Leap, you can do it again as a Swift action. A Belt of Battle could net you 2 more charges once per day. An item of permanent hustle will get you up to 3 charges/round easily, and stacks with the above, for up to 5 pounces in one round once per day, and 4/round fairly consistently.

[Negative Zero]

There are also the ToB maneuvers that let you teleport as a Standard, Move, and Swift action, respectively. Appear above them, fall, trigger Battle Jump, pounce, thrice. This isn't as optimal, but at least this way, you don't have to deal with AoOs for leaving threatened squares vertically.

[Hezor]

Binder Mark of Making Battle Nanobots. This one comes from SKRP and me, sometimes lurkers can get things on their own
Binder 1 with Improved Binding or Binder 3+ can bind Green Lady* and use one 1st lvl spell as a SLA once every 5 rounds.
Skip to the Dragonmarked handbook and it's Summon Marked Homunculus (pg 154).

As a SLA it should not require the Mark of Making, but even if we take it as needed to get homunculi tier, we still get to make a free Homunculi that exists 1hour/level and when reduced to 0hp deals d6 damage to everything adjacent, but you. Mind you, you can use this to make a huge amount of intelligent dimunitive Expeditious Messengers, who can fly with 100ft speed, find their victims and blow them up in a chain reaction (2hp) of [untyped] damage.

For extra points you can use them to deliver villainous monologue before killing the target.


*She's not official per se, but she's a part of an official campaign, so it's at least notable. YMMV.

[Kuroimaken]

Binder Mark of Making Battle Nanobots. This one comes from SKRP and me, sometimes lurkers can get things on their own
Binder 1 with Improved Binding or Binder 3+ can bind Green Lady* and use one 1st lvl spell as a SLA once every 5 rounds.
Skip to the Dragonmarked handbook and it's Summon Marked Homunculus (pg 154).

As a SLA it should not require the Mark of Making, but even if we take it as needed to get homunculi tier, we still get to make a free Homunculi that exists 1hour/level and when reduced to 0hp deals d6 damage to everything adjacent, but you. Mind you, you can use this to make a huge amount of intelligent dimunitive Expeditious Messengers, who can fly with 100ft speed, find their victims and blow them up in a chain reaction (2hp) of [untyped] damage.

For extra points you can use them to deliver villainous monologue before killing the target.


*She's not official per se, but she's a part of an official campaign, so it's at least notable. YMMV.

I once had something similar with craft contigent item. Get a block of whatever (heck, it could be anything. I wouldn't recommend paper though). Put a damaging spell in it with craft contingent item. Cast fabricate so you make lots of diminutive nanobots from the block. Cast Animate object. Profit!

[LimaBeanMage]

Ray of Dizziness + Bands of Steel

Really, the combo goes Ray of Dizziness, or Slow (but that has a save), and anything else that has in the descriptor "Must use a full round action to escape".

RoD is pretty much a guaranteed slow on one target, and if they fail the save on whatever traps them then they cannot take a full round action to escape and are quite stuck. At low levels this is a killer combo. At higher levels, switch to Viscid Glob to completely shut someone down for combat.