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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2010, 11:28:29 AM »
Dragon type is in the same tier of the pyramid with undead, is it not? It doesn't change, in that case.
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A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
[/spoiler]

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2010, 03:17:13 PM »
Type pyramid is 3.0 (and thus outdated), overriden via the "specific overrides general" on every template, and also, really dumb.
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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2010, 05:22:42 PM »
Bah. I'm swimming in cheese to no real benefit.

I just want to be a ghostly ancestor kobold with levels following the list in the OP.

Moving away from the template stacking insanity, What about the feats? I updated the OP with the free slots, as well a list of feats to order.

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2010, 08:30:24 AM »
I didn't see a rule about bumping threads when they drop off the front page, and I think some new eyes would help...so *bump*

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2010, 10:30:13 AM »
We frequently have 2 year+necros. Amechra can explain more on that :P

Also, sometimes we'll have threads updated within the last 24 hours on page 3. There's no StJude over here.
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
[/spoiler]

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2010, 10:36:51 AM »
Wow. That's pretty crazy. I'm playing this character in about 8 hours, so any further help would be greatly appreciated.

We are only level 4 though, so feats are a pretty moot point until I get into Inc levels.

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2010, 10:44:55 AM »
I'll post some stuff oonce I get into work and get my laptop booted.
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
[/spoiler]

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2010, 10:49:19 AM »
Persistent Spell is nice to pick up :P
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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2010, 11:30:41 AM »
Here's some feats that might be useful to you: Extraordinary Concentration (CAdv 109), Extend Spell, Persist once you hit Incantatrix 3 to apply it after casting, and Deceptive Spell (Cityscape).
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
[/spoiler]

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2010, 11:17:11 AM »
Alright...We actually started the game, and after 2 days I was "resurrected" (I asked the DM to remove the ghost template for party interaction). So far it plays just like any other caster, except for my intentional lack of blasting spells. I might make a habit of playing overpowered characters without the cheese.

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2010, 01:47:41 PM »
Um...
How exactly are you qualifying for SCM as a kobold without Stoneblessed?
Simply ignoring the racial restriction or changing it to kobold?

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2010, 02:17:42 PM »
There's an adaptation section that let's you remove the racial req.
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
[/spoiler]

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2010, 03:27:31 AM »
Ignoring, as I was an shadow specialized illusionist beforehand. I have to follow the following rule:

1. Shadow flavored spells first when selecting spells known.

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2010, 09:26:53 AM »
Gonna toss 9 levels of Incantatrix for Metaphysical Spellshaper 3.  Qualifying for halruaan elder is a pain in the ass btw.

Edit: On another note, should I keep the item familiar for spellcraft? I'm planning on doing the enveloping pit/shadow genesis/metanode/acorn in our stronghold "weatherlight" airship.

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Re: Shadowcraft Mage at VERY low levels.
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2010, 12:40:10 PM »
Just had a stupid moment. I could do the -1 metamagics instead of easy/practical.