What is the CO board verdict on bying feats?

[Amechra]

Or, more specifically, the benefit of that feat as a magic item.

I've seen 2000 gp, but how hard would it be to convince a DM to allow this?

For reference, I would like to buy an item, a badge or ribbon perhaps, that gives me the benefit of Improved Critical (Pistols). Would this be too much?

Also, the setting has Iron Kingdoms classes and weapons, just so you know.

[Talore]

Or, more specifically, the benefit of that feat as a magic item.

I've seen 2000 gp, but how hard would it be to convince a DM to allow this?

For reference, I would like to buy an item, a badge or ribbon perhaps, that gives me the benefit of Improved Critical (Pistols). Would this be too much?

Also, the setting has Iron Kingdoms classes and weapons, just so you know.

Book references on feat price in magic items?

[X-Codes]

Or, more specifically, the benefit of that feat as a magic item.

I've seen 2000 gp, but how hard would it be to convince a DM to allow this?

For reference, I would like to buy an item, a badge or ribbon perhaps, that gives me the benefit of Improved Critical (Pistols). Would this be too much?

Also, the setting has Iron Kingdoms classes and weapons, just so you know.

Book references on feat price in magic items?

No references, just an extrapolation based off various items that grant feats.

Honestly, it's not bad, but it shouldn't be combined like that with other items in the same slot.  If you give up a body slot for a feat (singular), then it's not terrible.  That said, regardless of the price it's going to be abusable.

[thebigstupidfighter]

I think a feat would in general be a bad thing to allow as a magic item. At low levels it might seem balanced, but later on you'll be faced with the decision of adding another +1 to your sword, or buying 10 feats. A lack of available feats is probably the second-most limiting thing to what you can do at various levels, right after level of spells available. Taking away that cap would result in builds that could combine several builds worth of nastiness into one character.

For example, you have a character who went the Arcane Thesis route to pimp out his use of a single spell, but he could also use Locate City Bomb, and he's also an Uttercold Assault Necromancer. Alternatively a fighter-type could be both a gattling tripper and an ubercharger.

Items that do grant feats tend to be overpowered for their cost, see Crystal of Return and all the manuever-granting items from ToB.

[snakeman830]

Items that do grant feats tend to be overpowered for their cost, see Crystal of Return and all the manuever-granting items from ToB.

I would question this highly.  With very, very few exceptions, none of the printed feats that can be gained via items are very powerful at all.  Possibly the most powerful are the metamagic Rods, but they're limited to 3/day use.  After that, then I would agree to a point on the manuver items.  Those you still have to meet the prerequisites to use them.

[Drull]

It would also make the fighter class worth 22k gold 

[jameswilliamogle]

I'd say make it cost the same as a +stat item, and scale w/ the number of feats (so the first one costs 4k, then 16k, then 32k, then 64k, etc).  Make it a special Ioun stone?

[Maat_Mons]

Any custom magic item should be priced based on its value.  Different feats have different values, so I don't think any single number could be valid.  Look through Items that Grant Feats and you'll see many different prices. 

The closest existing items to what you're looking for are the scabbard of keen edges, which costs 16,000 gp and the keen weapon special ability, which costs +1. 

Using the suggested formula for converting spells to items with keen as a base, the suggested price is 30,000 gp.  Of course, using those formulas, the scabbard of keen edges would cost 32,400 gp. 

Let's take the scabbard of keen edges as a base.  Unlimited use items typically cost 5/3 as much as 3/day items.  Use activated/continuous items typically cost 20/18 as much as command word items.  Slotted items typically cost 1/2 as much as slotless items.  That would suggest the item you describe is worth about 15,000 gp. 

It's a DM judgment call, but 15,000 gp doesn't seem unreasonable to me.  For that price, I'd probably let you change the designated weapon once per day. 

[Amechra]

Alright, sounds good.

Oh, and by the way, the inscription on the medal will have to be "1^st place: Sharpshooting"

[PlzBreakMyCampaign]

Poor fighters.

Like most any naive homebrew, this benefits casters more.

[Amechra]

Obviously. Everything benefits casters more, except for an item that creates an unblockable antimagic field that moves with the target around every magic-user in existence. That isn't bypassed by Initiate of Mystra.

That might annoy casters a little.

[Toptomcat]

The 3.0 Arms & Equipment Guide gives a general guideline of 10,000 gp, plus 5,000 to 10,000 gp more per prerequisite feat, on page 128, which is as close to an official ruling as anyone's ever going to get.

[Solo]

Obviously. Everything benefits casters more, except for an item that creates an unblockable antimagic field that moves with the target around every magic-user in existence. That isn't bypassed by Initiate of Mystra.

That might annoy casters a little.

Enough to kill you by loading a sling with magically shrunk boulders or T-rexes that have been polymorphed into pebbles.

[X-Codes]

Poor fighters.

Like most any naive homebrew, this benefits casters more.

This is why I suggest that, regardless of the price, one feat (or maybe two very closely related feats) takes the place of one body slot.

[Amechra]

Did I mention the fields were permanent?

And retroactive?

So magic never existed?

Ever?

[Saxony]

Or, more specifically, the benefit of that feat as a magic item.

I've seen 2000 gp, but how hard would it be to convince a DM to allow this?

For reference, I would like to buy an item, a badge or ribbon perhaps, that gives me the benefit of Improved Critical (Pistols). Would this be too much?

Also, the setting has Iron Kingdoms classes and weapons, just so you know.

One can get Iron Will, Extend Rage, or Menacing Demeanor, or Skill Focus (Intimidate) for 3,000 gold from the Otyugh Hole (Complete Scoundrel, page 151, "Legendary Location").

For Improved Critical, I'd say about 10,000 gold. Combined with other things like Blood in the Water (Tome of Battle, stance, Tiger Claw 1), it can get... crazy.

[X-Codes]

Did I mention the fields were permanent?

And retroactive?

So magic never existed?

Ever?

Tell me when we're going to throw dice on the Battle of Gettysburg reenactment for the 2852nd time and I'll be there.

[Amechra]

Did I mention the fields were permanent?

And retroactive?

So magic never existed?

Ever?

Tell me when we're going to throw dice on the Battle of Gettysburg reenactment for the 2852nd time and I'll be there.

Woosday the 33rd of Schmebuary. Be there or be square.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Did I mention the fields were permanent?

And retroactive?

So magic never existed?

Ever?

Well, antimagic fields are themselves magic.  So your homebrew cancels itself out.

[Bozwevial]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't A&EG price a feat at 10k?