Expert vs Monk Challenge!

[Sobolev]

In a real game, I like X-Codes build quite a bit, and was basically what I was getting at, done better =P

[awaken DM golem]

bump

[SorO_Lost]

Bump? Lame.

*rolls humor check*

Result:
Monk wins. Why? Why the hell would you think he doesn't?

• UMD/UPD with an expert?! Who the hell cares, the DCs are low enough you can cross class it as a monk.
• Iaijitsu Shenanagins! Works with any weapon, did you know a Keosomethingerish spiked gauntlet is considered a weapon (thus can be 'drawn') and deals unarmed damage? Yeah monk gets the superior weapon dice there while still maintaining an x4 multiplier.
• What? CC ranks missing out on maybe 1 fracking die of damage? Eat Snap Kick's double attack. Diplomacy for aided by Pelor! Again the DCs are super low, and it's a class skill. Moving on.
• Rest is as retarded as you think. Monk exclusively has several things over the Expert. Improved Evasion, better saves, Wis to AC, immunity to disease/poison/aging, SR 30, immunity to humanoid only effects, and superior land speed even says the Monk is better and running the hell away from the wizard-summoned-dragon with better chances of living.
• That's right, if the diplomacy check fails, the Monk can run the hell away AND probably has ranks in Hiding and Escape Artist. He can hide under a rock better than any so called 'expert'.
• All else fails, Monk has Shadow Walk. Think 4th dimensionally when fleeing.

[Solo]

The 4th dimension is time.

[Lycanthromancer]

The 4th dimension is time.

AKA, 'think slowly'?

[SorO_Lost]

The 4th dimension is time.

It's easier to move though the planes than time though. Time should be the 5th dimension, or maybe even the 6th.

[X-Codes]

The 4th dimension is time.

It's easier to move though the planes than time though. Time should be the 5th dimension, or maybe even the 6th.

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[SorO_Lost]

The 4th dimension is time.

It's easier to move though the planes than time though. Time should be the 5th dimension, or maybe even the 6th.

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Oh come on, I seen my self saying something like that a mile away

[veekie]

But you're always moving through time.

Just in one direction.

[SorO_Lost]

But you're always moving through time.

Just in one direction.

Yeah but even an immobile stickman drawing moves though time like that. For some reason, science didn't say time was the 1st dimension. Probably due to the whole one way thing, so I'm sticking to my story of ease creates rank.

Confusing string theories aside for the laymen like me the probable dimensions are.
1: Width
2: Hight
3: Depth
4: Planar
5: Time
6: 4th Wall
It is a given that you can move freely back and forth though the first three dimensions. Within the Core books you are capable of moving though the 4th (plane shift, death + raise, even shadow walk) and with splat books and/or SRD you obtain the ability to move backwards though the fifth with some clever tricks. And lastly, 3rd party books allow you to freely travel though the 6th, for example like reaching over and stealing the skill ranks off another player's character sheet per a feat in Munchkin d20. It should be noted there is an undefined subatomic energy referred to as he great DM Permission that must be dealt with prior to 6th dimensional movement, one noted way of doing such is to first break the barrier to obtain a "twenty dollar bill", then offer it up as a sacrifice for continuing to do so. It it unknown how often this item appears as a reward for a task, legend has it the barrier must be some form of a parter with you to begin with.

[Midnight_v]

7.Willful ignorance.

I can't personally get to that dimension.  I get stuck at time, how ince for you monk lovers 

[Agita]

But you're always moving through time.

Just in one direction.

Yeah but even an immobile stickman drawing moves though time like that. For some reason, science didn't say time was the 1st dimension. Probably due to the whole one way thing, so I'm sticking to my story of ease creates rank.

No, the dimensions are ordered by complexity. A 0-dimensional item is a dot with radius zero, the most simple thing that could possibly exist. A one-dimensional item is a line, a row of infinitely many such dots. A two-dimensional item is a plane, a collection of infinitely many lines. A three-dimensional item is a body, a collection of infinitely many planes. With each step up, it gets more complicated, and we're not even at time yet.

It is a given that you can move freely back and forth though the first three dimensions.

What.
Please tell me how you accomplish moving from the third dimension into the second and back, because I'd like to be able to become an infinitely thin plane at will too.

[X-Codes]

It is a given that you can move freely back and forth though the first three dimensions.

What.
Please tell me how you accomplish moving from the third dimension into the second and back, because I'd like to be able to become an infinitely thin plane at will too.

I know it's possible.  Just look at professional models.

[awaken DM golem]

... or Sarah Palin.

[Lycanthromancer]

8. Knurd.

[Bauglir]

It is a given that you can move freely back and forth though the first three dimensions.

What.
Please tell me how you accomplish moving from the third dimension into the second and back, because I'd like to be able to become an infinitely thin plane at will too.

Actually this statement makes sense. You move through them by, well, moving. If you change an object's x coordinate, you are moving through the dimension x measures. Dimensions aren't places (you don't move "to" the 2nd dimension, because it isn't a location). He didn't say you can move between dimensions or anything.

[veekie]

I think the key word there is 'through' as opposed to 'within'. The former implies you're changing dimensional axis, the latter that you're moving within all those axes.

[Agita]

I think the key word there is 'through' as opposed to 'within'. The former implies you're changing dimensional axis, the latter that you're moving within all those axes.

Yeah. Although X-Codes does make a good point.

[Bauglir]

I think the key word there is 'through' as opposed to 'within'. The former implies you're changing dimensional axis, the latter that you're moving within all those axes.

Honestly, it doesn't imply that to me. "Moving through the 4th dimension" has always implied time travel, for instance. That said, X-codes does bring up the fact that all professional models have clearly encountered an irritated PsyWar who knew Dimension Twister.

[SorO_Lost]

For the record, the only guy I know that moves though the dimensions like Agita mentioned is coming over to fix a leak in my fungi storage.