« Reply #57 on: September 28, 2010, 03:12:16 AM »
Of course, since I'm currently involved over there in a debate on what a "standard class" is with someone who believes that examples of a phrase in use don't count as evidence for what that phrase means... ugh. Having now quoted SRD, PHBII, Dungeonscape, Tome of Battle, and Tome of Magic, all of which use it in the same was (it's the same as Base Class or Basic Class), he's still going off about how I haven't given him a definition so it's impossible to know what the phrase means.
Hey I recall that one, I argued against it with you too. I recall you didn't really quote anything useful too, likely nothing given recent examples of our headbutts.
Anyway, don't use lame examples.
A: PHBII page 5 says it adds four new standard classes.
B: Page 31 says standard classes when talking about the PHB's base classes but fails to use that term 20 words later when talking about the rest.
Horrible loss on A's end, unless mentioned otherwise, base class != standard class. Not quite the direction you are headed for.
Find something strong.
Then PM it to me. I recall somewhere in one of the books something finally tipped me over to all base classes are standard classes but I forgot where.
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Tiers explained in 8 sentences. With examples!
[spoiler]Tiers break down into who has spellcasting more than anything else due to spells being better than anything else in the game.
6: Skill based. Commoner, Expert, Samurai.
5: Mundane warrior. Barbarian, Fighter, Monk.
4: Partial casters. Adapt, Hexblade, Paladin, Ranger, Spelltheif.
3: Focused casters. Bard, Beguiler, Dread Necromancer, Martial Adapts, Warmage.
2: Full casters. Favored Soul, Psion, Sorcerer, Wu Jen.
1: Elitists. Artificer, Cleric, Druid, Wizard.
0: Gods. StP Erudite, Illthid Savant, Pun-Pun, Rocks fall & you die.
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