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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2010, 12:34:10 PM »
Even if you prepare it.  You can have a nice prepared sanctum magic missile, but until you cast it it's still a first level spell.
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2010, 12:38:12 PM »
Interesting.
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2010, 06:57:31 PM »
You want a world-sunderer? Then you want a neutronium golem.

Yeah, it's not a "natural" predator. But if you want overkill, and I mean serious "what in god's name is wrong with you, get out of my basement" overkill, then the NG is for you.
how did they calculate a challenge rating of 9721?  seems arbitrary....

and the High Cosmic part about an army of Neutronium Golems warping into space.....  what?  :o

so... if you were to fight an army of these guys, the worlds sizes of armies range from 130(iceland) to 21,476,000(Russia)
(according to wikipedia)[spoiler]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_troops[/spoiler]
So then the challenge rating would be anywhere between CR 1,263,730 and CR 208,768,196,000

[spoiler]what would it really take to kill an army of over 21 million of these guys?  ya'know a CR of over 200 Billion :hide [/spoiler]
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2010, 08:39:22 PM »
I could kill an army of these guys at level 1.

Core only.

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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2010, 09:30:28 PM »
You want a world-sunderer? Then you want a neutronium golem.

Yeah, it's not a "natural" predator. But if you want overkill, and I mean serious "what in god's name is wrong with you, get out of my basement" overkill, then the NG is for you.
how did they calculate a challenge rating of 9721?  seems arbitrary....
It's a typo, from what I understand. The actual CR is closer to 900, but the typo carries special weight just because it is, in fact, greater than 9000.

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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #45 on: September 23, 2010, 09:53:07 PM »
I could kill an army of these guys at level 1.

Core only.

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Pretty dangerous. Magnetar could conceivably be read so that it could follow the astral projection(s) back to it's body. Even with fire immune troops, the ring gates are probably not fire immune. Flyby attack is good against the auras, though the range is a bit prohibitive...is there a simple way to get immunity to stunning/unconsciousness?
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #46 on: September 24, 2010, 03:47:53 AM »
I could kill an army of these guys at level 1.

Core only.

[Protip: sell your spellbook and buy a scroll of planar binding.]
nice trick, but...N-Golem has a Level adjustment of +17427; so, N-Golems with class levels do exist and they can do it too.

Genesis would even explain the massive amounts of resources needed to build them, AND since they are such a high level encounter, they have probably been on their own custom plain longer than you have... plotting and replicating themselves and the army you see is probably just a bunch of N-Golems projecting themselves, esp if you are level 1.



edit: plane not plain ha ha
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #47 on: September 24, 2010, 03:54:38 AM »
Nah, they're such a high ECL they'd never gain any levels.
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #48 on: September 24, 2010, 05:17:47 AM »
Nah, they're such a high ECL they'd never gain any levels.

How much xp do you get for destroying a fully inhabited planet with a wide variety of monsters and adventurers?
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #49 on: September 24, 2010, 05:19:25 AM »
Nah, they're such a high ECL they'd never gain any levels.

How much xp do you get for destroying a fully inhabited planet with a wide variety of monsters and adventurers?

At that ECL, probably 0.
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #50 on: September 24, 2010, 05:57:22 AM »
what about LA buyoff?
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #51 on: September 24, 2010, 06:01:51 AM »
what about LA buyoff?
Good luck getting that many class levels, especially since RHD don't count towards it.
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #52 on: September 24, 2010, 11:24:17 AM »
Genesis would even explain the massive amounts of resources needed to build them, AND since they are such a high level encounter, they have probably been on their own custom plain longer than you have...
As long as it's not the yogurt that's plain.

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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #53 on: September 24, 2010, 11:25:27 AM »
Obviously it's an infinite, flat grassland.

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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #54 on: September 24, 2010, 11:27:30 AM »
Obviously it's an infinite, flat grassland.

[spoiler]Full of snakes.[/spoiler]
That was before the rocks fell, and everyone died.
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #55 on: September 24, 2010, 07:08:17 PM »
Genesis would even explain the massive amounts of resources needed to build them, AND since they are such a high level encounter, they have probably been on their own custom plain longer than you have...
As long as it's not the yogurt that's plain.

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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2010, 09:08:41 PM »
Yogurt! I hate yogurt, especially strawberry yogurt.

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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2010, 09:29:13 PM »
Yogurt! I hate yogurt, especially strawberry yogurt.
Philistine.
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Re: Is this overkill?
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2010, 04:43:05 AM »
Yogurt! I hate yogurt, especially strawberry yogurt.
Philistine.

Nah, even Philistines knew what was up when it came to yogurt.