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With the power of my God Hands!
« on: September 10, 2010, 08:42:01 PM »
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Just had an interesting thought. Both pale masterLM and renegade mastermakerMoE are 10-level spellcasting PrCs that replace one of a character's limbs with an artifical one (undead or contruct, respectively) and grant some of the traits of the relevant type.

A character with at least 1 level of RM and 6 levels of PM would have one warforged arm and one skeletal one. What's the best build we can get from this?


Here's the class tables:
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Quote from: Renegade mastermaker
d6 HD, Average BAB, Good Fort/Will

1 Battlefist, craft master
2 Battlefist (+1), self-repair, +1 casting
3 Supporting construction, +1 casting
4 DR 1/adamantine, +1 casting
5 Battlefist (+2), +1 casting
6 +1 casting
7 Embed component
8 DR 2/adamantine, +1 casting
9 Battlefist (+3), +1 casting
10 Construct exemplar, +1 casting
Quote from: Pale master
d4 HD, Poor BAB, Good Will

1 -
2 Animate dead, +1 casting
3 Darkvision, +1 casting
4 Undead armor affinity (10%), +1 casting
5 Control undead, deathless vigor, +1 casting
6 Undead graft, paralysing touch, +1 casting
7 Tough as bone, weakening touch, +1 casting
8 Undead armor affinity (20%), degenerative touch, +1 casting
9 Undead cohort, destructive touch, +1 casting
10 Deathless mastery, deathless master's touch, +1 casting
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And prereqs:
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Quote from: Renegade mastermaker
Type: Humanoid
Skills: Craft (armorsmithing, blacksmithing, gemcutting or sculpting) 8 ranks
Feats: Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Craft Wondrous Item
Quote from: Pale master
Alignment: any nongood
Skills: Knowledge (religion) 8 ranks
Feats: Skill Focus [Knowledge (religion)]
Spells: Able to cast command undead and vampiric touch as arcane spells
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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2010, 09:30:45 PM »
Be a warforged (shouldn't that make you more warforgy?)

Heal from negative, positive, and repair spells.

Immunity to precision based damage... forever!

Eh, I don't know.

Wait, would something with both construct and undead traits require something that bypasses both immunities to precision damage at the same time to SA?
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On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2010, 09:31:40 PM »
That humanoid prereq sure sucks balls...

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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2010, 11:28:14 PM »
If you're going RM anyway, might as well go RM 6 to get the stupidly large HP bonus.
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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2010, 01:09:19 AM »
I'm away from the book...  What happens at level 6?
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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2010, 01:10:39 AM »
I'm away from the book...  What happens at level 6?
IIRC, you get 1 hp for every magic item you embed in yourself or so. You craft tons of really cheap items - like, 10 gp or so each - and trade your WBL for hp.
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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2010, 01:10:47 AM »
+1 hp per warforged component.

All magic items can be crafted as warforged components.

There are really cheap slotless magic items.
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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2010, 05:54:18 AM »
Be an Incarnate Construct Warforged (with your choice of +2 LA in templates, if you like cheese), just so you're a Warforged becoming Warforged. Take Adamantine Body, while you're at it.

EDIT: Oh, and since you've got no racial traits to lose (if your choice of templates was wise), be Dragonborn.
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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2010, 07:20:05 AM »
Be an Incarnate Construct Warforged (with your choice of +2 LA in templates, if you like cheese), just so you're a Warforged becoming Warforged.

Yo dawg, I heard you like Warforged :lmao

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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2010, 02:33:43 AM »
If you're going Renegade Mastermaker load up on Construct Grafts (found in Faiths of Eberron).  Among other things, a full set of all five grafts gives you DR 6/Adamantine that stacks with other sources of DR X/Adamantine. 

RM adds another 2 and selecting Adamantine Body as your bonus feat at RM10 provides another 2. 

Overall, DR 10/Adamantine for minimal investment is not bad. 

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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2010, 02:36:17 AM »
Of course, what's the point of DR when you have scoutercrushingly many hp?
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Re: With the power of my God Hands!
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2010, 04:55:33 AM »
Of course, what's the point of DR when you have scoutercrushingly many hp?

Over NINE THOUSAND?   :clap
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