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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2010, 07:47:16 PM »
Well since you get +8 AC from being a Githzerai, a Monk focused around having a high AC could work.
Consider grabbing a lot of magic lewts that improve your armour class.
For Feats, You should qualify for Robilars Gambit, and if you get a high AC, the penatly from that wont matter as much. Also, snap-kick is sorta useful, it's an extra attack at least.

But here's the handbook, I think it will give you the most help:
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=1015.0
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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2010, 07:49:37 PM »
You should've been more specific in your opening post that you were going to be flat out Monk 11. When you say help building a monk, most people are going to assume you're building an unarmed specialist, and since you're on min/max they'll assume you want to do it well. Often when people don't get what they "asked" for on min/max, they didn't phrase their question well enough.

For feats Improved Natural Attack, possibly intuitive strike (wis to hit), snap kick, robilar's gambit (requires a lot of bab), power attack/shocktrooper/battle jump are always good.

Try and get your hands on an amulet of natural attacks (savage species).

Consider going a single level into shiba protector (requires 3 terrible feats, but monk variants can get you 2) and you'll have wis to damage. That would let you ignore str altogether and give you higher AC.

A single level in barbarian with the lion totem variant(Complete Champion) could net you pounce, allowing you to use monks extra mobility to do something useful.

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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2010, 07:55:09 PM »
I asked for help building an 11th level Monk

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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2010, 07:59:39 PM »
I think he should take Dodge, Mobility, and Spring Attack.

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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2010, 08:08:31 PM »
If your going straight monk, and insist on doing grappling take the feat Earths Embrace. it adds 1d12 dmg when you have someone grappled.
Another one I always liked(because my monk charged alot) was flying kick, which adds a 1d12 to you dmg as well.


There ya go ass hole. Dont get mad cause people are trying to make your character not be a piece of crap straight monk 11

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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2010, 08:51:39 PM »
It's hard to build a straight monk badly. They're tier 3 no matter how hard you try to botch it. Just take Adaptive Style, and you're good, though Shadow Blade may be warranted for Dex-based builds.
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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2010, 09:00:40 PM »
It's hard to build a straight monk badly. They're tier 3 no matter how hard you try to botch it. Just take Adaptive Style, and you're good, though Shadow Blade may be warranted for Dex-based builds.
I don't think he was looking at Tome of Battle...
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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2010, 09:07:59 PM »
Actually I had been considering Shadow Blade. Is Unarmed Strike a shadow hand weapon, though? I thought it was just daggers, not sure why I thought that, though. Away from books currently.
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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2010, 09:10:30 PM »
Is everyone here seriously that stupid? I asked for help building an 11th level Monk, not X Monk X PrC, not for advice on how to play 3.5, not for a Wizard grappling build, not to for your thoughts and feelings on Monk as a class. I used to have a quote from my girlfriend in my sig that read "Wow these min max dudes can't read" - I should put it back in.

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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2010, 09:14:38 PM »
It's hard to build a straight monk badly. They're tier 3 no matter how hard you try to botch it. Just take Adaptive Style, and you're good, though Shadow Blade may be warranted for Dex-based builds.
I don't think he was looking at Tome of Battle...
But that's the most up-to-date version of the monk, yes? I thought that more recent updates took precedence...
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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #30 on: September 06, 2010, 10:04:39 PM »
Hehehehe, yea, Unarmed Swordsage is definitely the most up to date version of monk! :) :)
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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #31 on: September 06, 2010, 10:46:34 PM »
Wow, the OP's arrogance is pretty sad, especially considering he didn't specify he wanted a straight Monk.  I'd help more, but I'm kinda no longer interested.

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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2010, 11:02:38 PM »
Yeah, Ability Focus I had figured in. It's that and get Wisdom, I guess. Any items that will help with that or give more uses?


Not that I can think of offhand.  Just a bit of friendly advice: if you want people to dig for obscure stuff, calling them morons every second post isn't really the best motivational tactic.  

To elaborate: If you're so smart, make a fucking build yourself.

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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2010, 01:01:15 AM »
Okay. Thanks everyone.
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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2010, 01:32:00 AM »
Wow, the OP's arrogance is pretty sad, especially considering he didn't specify he wanted a straight Monk.  I'd help more, but I'm kinda no longer interested.

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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2010, 02:20:50 AM »
Wow, the OP's arrogance is pretty sad, especially considering he didn't specify he wanted a straight Monk.  I'd help more, but I'm kinda no longer interested.

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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2010, 02:59:41 AM »
But I have a friend who is thinking about playing one. I'm going to try and showcase some things to him. He will be LEVEL ELEVEN (ECL13) with his race being Githzerai.

Things that I need help highlighting:

-Getting UA damage dice up.
-Getting Stunning Fist save up and tweaking stunning fist (I know you can make it ranged somehow).
-Disabling; tripping, grappling, disarming.
-Miscellaneous tips and tricks.


If you're willing to help, please cite source material. If you just want to throw down a link to a build, that's fine, too. I can usually dismantle them and figure out what information is there. Thanks, guys!  :D
Here you go   :p

::Source materials
  -the "glow" button on the "Post Reply" form
  -the "Change Color" select box, also on the "Post Reply" form

Oh and a couple builds you might find useful

Sir Giacomo's Guide to Monks  -  This might be more up your ally, if not, go ahead and put it there :notamused
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80704

Also Solo has a somewhat related guide that you might find useful
http://brilliantgameologists.com/boards/index.php?topic=8270.0

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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2010, 05:16:43 AM »
Actually I had been considering Shadow Blade. Is Unarmed Strike a shadow hand weapon, though? I thought it was just daggers, not sure why I thought that, though. Away from books currently.
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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2010, 05:32:31 AM »
Is everyone here seriously that stupid? I asked for help building an 11th level Monk, not X Monk X PrC, not for advice on how to play 3.5, not for a Wizard grappling build, not to for your thoughts and feelings on Monk as a class. I used to have a quote from my girlfriend in my sig that read "Wow these min max dudes can't read" - I should put it back in.
@ Basically everyone. You're morons; Monk is a zero to ONE level dip.
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Re: I don't know anything about Monks (Help!)
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2010, 06:06:04 AM »
lawl excellent quote Flay  :D
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