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[snakeman830]

Q157:  Can anyone recommend a good horror-themed campaign?

+1 to both recommendations, plus creepy music. LOTS of creepy music 

Played by candlelight in a basement.  If during a thunderstorm, it gets way better.

[McPoyo]

Totemist 11 is the only official way to bind a soulmeld to more than one chakra at a time.

I already said that, yet your phrasing seems to suggest you believe you're disagreeing with me. 

I'm saying I think you are reading too much into it and adding causality where there needs be none. It states pretty explicitly that you can't generally multi-bind.

[PhaedrusXY]

Q158: I'm looking to add Escape Artist as a class skill to a character to qualify for Arcane Trickster (I can meet all the other prereqs).

Feats are pretty tight, but I'm not averse to dipping into a class that progresses arcane caster levels, if I can buy the feat prereqs or already have them. Current feats are Knowledge Devotion, Improved Initiative, Dragonwrought, Practiced Spellcaster, Dragon Wings, Spell Mastery, and Uncanny Forethought. On second thought, I guess I could trade out Practiced Spellcaster or Dragon Wings. The character is here.

So... how can I get 7 Escape Artist ranks?

[kevin_video]

Q158: I'm looking to add Escape Artist as a class skill to a character to qualify for Arcane Trickster (I can meet all the other prereqs). Feats are pretty tight, but I'm not averse to dipping into a class that progresses arcane caster levels, if I can buy the feat prereqs or already have them. Current feats are Knowledge Devotion, Improved Initiative, Dragonwrought, Practiced Spellcaster, Dragon Wings, Spell Mastery, and Uncanny Forethought. On second thought, I guess I could trade out Practiced Spellcaster or Dragon Wings. So... how can I get 7 Escape Artist ranks? The character is here.

What's the race?

[PhaedrusXY]

Q158: I'm looking to add Escape Artist as a class skill to a character to qualify for Arcane Trickster (I can meet all the other prereqs). Feats are pretty tight, but I'm not averse to dipping into a class that progresses arcane caster levels, if I can buy the feat prereqs or already have them. Current feats are Knowledge Devotion, Improved Initiative, Dragonwrought, Practiced Spellcaster, Dragon Wings, Spell Mastery, and Uncanny Forethought. On second thought, I guess I could trade out Practiced Spellcaster or Dragon Wings. So... how can I get 7 Escape Artist ranks? The character is here.

What's the race?

Dragonwrought kobold.

[McPoyo]

Q158: I'm looking to add Escape Artist as a class skill to a character to qualify for Arcane Trickster (I can meet all the other prereqs). Feats are pretty tight, but I'm not averse to dipping into a class that progresses arcane caster levels, if I can buy the feat prereqs or already have them. Current feats are Knowledge Devotion, Improved Initiative, Dragonwrought, Practiced Spellcaster, Dragon Wings, Spell Mastery, and Uncanny Forethought. On second thought, I guess I could trade out Practiced Spellcaster or Dragon Wings. So... how can I get 7 Escape Artist ranks? The character is here.

What's the race?

Dragonwrought kobold.

[snakeman830]

Q158: I'm looking to add Escape Artist as a class skill to a character to qualify for Arcane Trickster (I can meet all the other prereqs). Feats are pretty tight, but I'm not averse to dipping into a class that progresses arcane caster levels, if I can buy the feat prereqs or already have them. Current feats are Knowledge Devotion, Improved Initiative, Dragonwrought, Practiced Spellcaster, Dragon Wings, Spell Mastery, and Uncanny Forethought. On second thought, I guess I could trade out Practiced Spellcaster or Dragon Wings. So... how can I get 7 Escape Artist ranks? The character is here.

What's the race?

Dragonwrought kobold.

To be more specific, Ethereal, Shadow, and Tartarian

[PhaedrusXY]

Q158: I'm looking to add Escape Artist as a class skill to a character to qualify for Arcane Trickster (I can meet all the other prereqs). Feats are pretty tight, but I'm not averse to dipping into a class that progresses arcane caster levels, if I can buy the feat prereqs or already have them. Current feats are Knowledge Devotion, Improved Initiative, Dragonwrought, Practiced Spellcaster, Dragon Wings, Spell Mastery, and Uncanny Forethought. On second thought, I guess I could trade out Practiced Spellcaster or Dragon Wings. So... how can I get 7 Escape Artist ranks? The character is here.

What's the race?

Dragonwrought kobold.

He's actually a wizard. So that's a no-go.

[McPoyo]

Q158: I'm looking to add Escape Artist as a class skill to a character to qualify for Arcane Trickster (I can meet all the other prereqs). Feats are pretty tight, but I'm not averse to dipping into a class that progresses arcane caster levels, if I can buy the feat prereqs or already have them. Current feats are Knowledge Devotion, Improved Initiative, Dragonwrought, Practiced Spellcaster, Dragon Wings, Spell Mastery, and Uncanny Forethought. On second thought, I guess I could trade out Practiced Spellcaster or Dragon Wings. So... how can I get 7 Escape Artist ranks? The character is here.

What's the race?

Dragonwrought kobold.

He's actually a wizard. So that's a no-go.

How integral is the Wizard part? And that's the only way I know of to get it as a class-skill for kobolds.

[Maat_Mons]

I'm saying I think you are reading too much into it and adding causality where there needs be none. It states pretty explicitly that you can't generally multi-bind.

In that case, give me one quote that explicitly says 1 soulmeld cannot normally be bound to 2 chakras.  I can only find things that implicitly say it and things that explicitly say 2 soulmelds cannot be bound to 1 chakra. 

[McPoyo]

I'm saying I think you are reading too much into it and adding causality where there needs be none. It states pretty explicitly that you can't generally multi-bind.

In that case, give me one quote that explicitly says 1 soulmeld cannot normally be bound to 2 chakras.  I can only find things that implicitly say it and things that explicitly say 2 soulmelds cannot be bound to 1 chakra.  

"Generally, a soulmeld can only be bound to the chakra it occupies."

edit: Also, the "A meldshaper chooses which chakra to use when shaping their soulmelds if it could apply to more than one" or however it's worded on the previous page.

[PhaedrusXY]

Q158: I'm looking to add Escape Artist as a class skill to a character to qualify for Arcane Trickster (I can meet all the other prereqs). Feats are pretty tight, but I'm not averse to dipping into a class that progresses arcane caster levels, if I can buy the feat prereqs or already have them. Current feats are Knowledge Devotion, Improved Initiative, Dragonwrought, Practiced Spellcaster, Dragon Wings, Spell Mastery, and Uncanny Forethought. On second thought, I guess I could trade out Practiced Spellcaster or Dragon Wings. So... how can I get 7 Escape Artist ranks? The character is here.

What's the race?

Dragonwrought kobold.

He's actually a wizard. So that's a no-go.

How integral is the Wizard part? And that's the only way I know of to get it as a class-skill for kobolds.

Well... since I've already built the character... and I really like having Int be his main stat (for skill points)... pretty integral. Escape Artist and Arcane Trickster aren't integral, but would be nice if I could find a way to do it. Like I said, I'd be happy to dip into a PrC for a level as long as its easy to qualify for and progresses arcane caster levels. I wonder if there is a quick way to look for a PrC that has +1 CL and also that as a class skill...

[McPoyo]

Q158: I'm looking to add Escape Artist as a class skill to a character to qualify for Arcane Trickster (I can meet all the other prereqs). Feats are pretty tight, but I'm not averse to dipping into a class that progresses arcane caster levels, if I can buy the feat prereqs or already have them. Current feats are Knowledge Devotion, Improved Initiative, Dragonwrought, Practiced Spellcaster, Dragon Wings, Spell Mastery, and Uncanny Forethought. On second thought, I guess I could trade out Practiced Spellcaster or Dragon Wings. So... how can I get 7 Escape Artist ranks? The character is here.

What's the race?

Dragonwrought kobold.

He's actually a wizard. So that's a no-go.

How integral is the Wizard part? And that's the only way I know of to get it as a class-skill for kobolds.

Well... since I've already built the character... and I really like having Int be his main stat (for skill points)... pretty integral. Escape Artist and Arcane Trickster aren't integral, but would be nice if I could find a way to do it. Like I said, I'd be happy to dip into a PrC for a level as long as its easy to qualify for and progresses arcane caster levels. I wonder if there is a quick way to look for a PrC that has +1 CL and also that as a class skill...

Could do cross class ranks to get into it after 8 levels of other classes if you have the skill points spare.

[kevin_video]

Q158: I'm looking to add Escape Artist as a class skill to a character to qualify for Arcane Trickster (I can meet all the other prereqs). Feats are pretty tight, but I'm not averse to dipping into a class that progresses arcane caster levels, if I can buy the feat prereqs or already have them. Current feats are Knowledge Devotion, Improved Initiative, Dragonwrought, Practiced Spellcaster, Dragon Wings, Spell Mastery, and Uncanny Forethought. On second thought, I guess I could trade out Practiced Spellcaster or Dragon Wings. So... how can I get 7 Escape Artist ranks? The character is here.

What's the race?

Dragonwrought kobold.

He's actually a wizard. So that's a no-go.

How integral is the Wizard part? And that's the only way I know of to get it as a class-skill for kobolds.

Well... since I've already built the character... and I really like having Int be his main stat (for skill points)... pretty integral. Escape Artist and Arcane Trickster aren't integral, but would be nice if I could find a way to do it. Like I said, I'd be happy to dip into a PrC for a level as long as its easy to qualify for and progresses arcane caster levels. I wonder if there is a quick way to look for a PrC that has +1 CL and also that as a class skill...

Are you a specialist wizard, or universalist?

[PhaedrusXY]

Are you a specialist wizard, or universalist?

Focused Diviner.

Could do cross class ranks to get into it after 8 levels of other classes if you have the skill points spare.

Yeah... not really worth it, IMO. I'd rather just take more Unseen Seer and/or another PrC than waste that many skill points. I could go back to the standard rogue or whatever lead in, but I like Cloistered Cleric for free Knowledge Devotion at level 1. I have a ton of feats that I want but can't take at 1st level. So just taking Knowledge Devotion isn't really an option either, thanks to the 5 skill rank requirement. Man that PrC is a bitch to get into. So many ranks in useless skills... You're pretty much shoehorned into entering it with at least 1 rogue level...

Ah well, thanks guys.

[kevin_video]

Are you a specialist wizard, or universalist?

Focused Diviner.

Could do cross class ranks to get into it after 8 levels of other classes if you have the skill points spare.

Yeah... not really worth it, IMO. I'd rather just take more Unseen Seer and/or another PrC than waste that many skill points. I could go back to the standard rogue or whatever lead in, but I like Cloistered Cleric for free Knowledge Devotion at level 1. I have a ton of feats that I want but can't take at 1st level. So just taking Knowledge Devotion isn't really an option either, thanks to the 5 skill rank requirement. Man that PrC is a bitch to get into. So many ranks in useless skills... You're pretty much shoehorned into entering it with at least 1 rogue level...

Ah well, thanks guys.

I'd just take a level in bard, and take the feat Theurgic Specialist. If you're a 3rd level specialist wizard, it won't matter how many other levels in another spellcasting class you have because they combine for the specialist only. So if you're a diviner 7/bard 2, you're CL 9 for diviner. And once you're done with Arcane Trickster, if you wanted, and have at least 15 CHA by the time you're done, you could always take a few levels of Ultimate Magus. Otherwise, two levels of rogue for Evasion, or even go with psionic rogue for the power points. But if you've got one feat to sacrifice and 11 CHA, I'd go with the diviner/bard route.

[McPoyo]

Are you a specialist wizard, or universalist?

Focused Diviner.

Could do cross class ranks to get into it after 8 levels of other classes if you have the skill points spare.

Yeah... not really worth it, IMO. I'd rather just take more Unseen Seer and/or another PrC than waste that many skill points. I could go back to the standard rogue or whatever lead in, but I like Cloistered Cleric for free Knowledge Devotion at level 1. I have a ton of feats that I want but can't take at 1st level. So just taking Knowledge Devotion isn't really an option either, thanks to the 5 skill rank requirement. Man that PrC is a bitch to get into. So many ranks in useless skills... You're pretty much shoehorned into entering it with at least 1 rogue level...

Ah well, thanks guys.

You can still do it without touching your class levels if you have two feats: Dragontouched (Dragon magic, cha 11 prereq) allows you to bypass the "Sor 1+" part of the draconic feats. Take Dragontouched, then Heritage, done.

Also, isn't there a blurb somewhere in dragonwrought that lets you take Draconic Heritage without sorc levels?

[PhaedrusXY]

Are you a specialist wizard, or universalist?

Focused Diviner.

Could do cross class ranks to get into it after 8 levels of other classes if you have the skill points spare.

Yeah... not really worth it, IMO. I'd rather just take more Unseen Seer and/or another PrC than waste that many skill points. I could go back to the standard rogue or whatever lead in, but I like Cloistered Cleric for free Knowledge Devotion at level 1. I have a ton of feats that I want but can't take at 1st level. So just taking Knowledge Devotion isn't really an option either, thanks to the 5 skill rank requirement. Man that PrC is a bitch to get into. So many ranks in useless skills... You're pretty much shoehorned into entering it with at least 1 rogue level...

Ah well, thanks guys.

You can still do it without touching your class levels if you have two feats: Dragontouched (Dragon magic, cha 11 prereq) allows you to bypass the "Sor 1+" part of the draconic feats. Take Dragontouched, then Heritage, done.

Also, isn't there a blurb somewhere in dragonwrought that lets you take Draconic Heritage without sorc levels?

Well... there is this:

Dragons automatically qualify for any classes, prestige classes, racial substitution levels, feats, powers, or spells that require the dragonblood subtype.

But Draconic Heritage specifically requires a sorcerer level, so that won't work.

[kevin_video]

Are you a specialist wizard, or universalist?

Focused Diviner.

Could do cross class ranks to get into it after 8 levels of other classes if you have the skill points spare.

Yeah... not really worth it, IMO. I'd rather just take more Unseen Seer and/or another PrC than waste that many skill points. I could go back to the standard rogue or whatever lead in, but I like Cloistered Cleric for free Knowledge Devotion at level 1. I have a ton of feats that I want but can't take at 1st level. So just taking Knowledge Devotion isn't really an option either, thanks to the 5 skill rank requirement. Man that PrC is a bitch to get into. So many ranks in useless skills... You're pretty much shoehorned into entering it with at least 1 rogue level...

Ah well, thanks guys.

You can still do it without touching your class levels if you have two feats: Dragontouched (Dragon magic, cha 11 prereq) allows you to bypass the "Sor 1+" part of the draconic feats. Take Dragontouched, then Heritage, done.

Also, isn't there a blurb somewhere in dragonwrought that lets you take Draconic Heritage without sorc levels?

Well... there is this:

Dragons automatically qualify for any classes, prestige classes, racial substitution levels, feats, powers, or spells that require the dragonblood subtype.

But Draconic Heritage specifically requires a sorcerer level, so that won't work.

What about my suggestion for taking a level of bard and Theurgic Specialist? That'd get you what you want, and you wouldn't lose any caster levels thematically, you just wouldn't be a lvl 20th diviner for the number of spells.

[The_Mad_Linguist]

Yeah, dragonwrought gives you a cool racial +2 to a skill, but no class skillatude.