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Kell's Third Simultaneous Project : Archivist Party Booster
« on: August 22, 2010, 11:38:19 AM »
And in my usual fashion, going for over the top here.  Archivists can make a party stomp right over the enemy, playing GOD like a wizard, and it's possible to get a divine class into War Weaver easily enough.  Now, what dovetails with this wicked combo, other than a Randy Savage elbow smash from the top turnbuckle for making the DM's life hell?  Bardic Music?  TBoS Ocular Antics?  SCM cheese?
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2010, 11:41:05 AM »
d) All of the above? :D
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2010, 11:44:17 AM »
d) All of the above? :D

Well the last three are easy enough...and the Colossus of War is a Spelldancing Archivist...

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Elan Archivist 8/Spelldancer 2/Contemplative 1/War Weaver 5/Dweomerkeeper 4

Would get the Magic domain to get in, DB Pool or Southern Magician or Magical Training to get into DK, 1/day free Wish (there's every spell ever over time, and you're fucking immortal), I think Arch 8 will get all the pertinent Dark Knowledges other than autostun (which we can do with spells, anyhow), and doesn't lose a single caster level.  Good start?
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Re: Kell's Third Simultaneous Project : Archivist Party Booster
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 12:39:23 PM »
one flaw you lose 1 caster level from War Weaver.

and BD Pool gives bonus to spontanouse casters just double checked it i thought i remembered that from the archivist i was making at the begining of the year but ended up not playing.
Southern Magician does work though.... so now to have some fun with that as well.....
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Re: Kell's Third Simultaneous Project : Archivist Party Booster
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2010, 05:55:28 PM »
hows this look though

Archivist 5/ War Weaver 5/ Archivist 3/Heartfire Fanner 5/ lyric thuamagist 2

the last 3 levels of archivist can be dropped since you will be able to get a total of 10 levels of bardic music abilites so you dont "need" the 3d6 extra damage on top but 19th level caster archivist boosts  5th level spells into the weave and bardic music just needs to add perform to class skill list and you are golden ( 10 ranks in perfom for heartfire fanner ) doesnt have all the persistant spell cheese but should be insane without it

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2010, 07:25:21 PM »
hows this look though

Archivist 5/ War Weaver 5/ Archivist 3/Heartfire Fanner 5/ lyric thuamagist 2

the last 3 levels of archivist can be dropped since you will be able to get a total of 10 levels of bardic music abilites so you dont "need" the 3d6 extra damage on top but 19th level caster archivist boosts  5th level spells into the weave and bardic music just needs to add perform to class skill list and you are golden ( 10 ranks in perfom for heartfire fanner ) doesnt have all the persistant spell cheese but should be insane without it

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No reason LT can't replaced with Spelldancer either if you're willing to invest the feats for it, either :D  If nothing else, 8-9 levels with Spelldance can still rock on an archivist, since we've got access to every IC booster in the game, easily.
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Re: Kell's Third Simultaneous Project : Archivist Party Booster
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2010, 07:36:25 PM »
true so how much of the IC boost can we get with just the HF?   insperational boost+10 levels as bard+the vest from MIC+Song of Heart+things badge of valor + horn  + Words of Creation = +10 or better IC on top of +3d6 damage

my only real question is what goes into the weave and can we get enough ranks in perform for the build by 13th level for HF

suggestions for the weave? besides tears of the martyr so we can abuse celerity?
and we need ways to stack arcane reach i think as well ( if it effects pesonal spells) to further open up the weave to all kinds of huge boosts

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 08:51:20 PM »
If you don't mind churning through all the psionics stuff,
to find a gem or two ... then Dragon #349 helps.

Chameleon Crafting feat can put psi-powers onto Scrolls, which you then learn.
You'd need a smidge of psionics in your build to do it.

Psi by itself doesn't have that much party buff material,
but the level 9 power Affinity Field,
makes any up to 3rd level "power" into a zone.
Personally, I'd say that's worth a dumpster dive through the books.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 10:22:22 PM »
If you don't mind churning through all the psionics stuff,
to find a gem or two ... then Dragon #349 helps.

Chameleon Crafting feat can put psi-powers onto Scrolls, which you then learn.
You'd need a smidge of psionics in your build to do it.

Psi by itself doesn't have that much party buff material,
but the level 9 power Affinity Field,
makes any up to 3rd level "power" into a zone.
Personally, I'd say that's worth a dumpster dive through the books.
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dont forget we have the weave to work with so pending psionic/magic rules of the DM we msy only need to get a way to progress or learn psionic powers as spells and we have all 5th level or lower powers that are touch to the party that way

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Re: Kell's Third Simultaneous Project : Archivist Party Booster
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2010, 03:48:50 PM »
The real question is Fighter20 vs. one of the Archivists followers buffed.

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« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2010, 03:50:20 PM »
The real question is Fighter20 vs. one of the Archivists followers buffed.

Considering the follower can have Power Attack, Improved Trip, and a shitpile of reach from Giant Size, plus Protection from <whatever I want to hose BSF's>, seems kinda one-sided :P
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2010, 08:25:34 PM »
well ... Limited Wish gets up to 4th level powers, as a spell.
So, Wish gets ~6th level powers.
Miracle gets 7s.
Alamanthers Return (or whatever the spelling is) gets up to 8s, so long as you have "seen" it happen.
Of course this is just an expensive but easy way to do this.


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« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2010, 09:52:25 PM »
Okay, I need to purge my ignorance.

I have searched the boards high and low, war weaver guides and archivist guides aplenty...

I have no idea how you guys are qualifying archivist for war weaver. How?

This question is very dear to my heart, as I am about to play in a campaign and I want to be a party buffing archivist.
This game will probably not reach over level 12 btw.

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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2010, 12:05:21 AM »
Okay, I need to purge my ignorance.

I have searched the boards high and low, war weaver guides and archivist guides aplenty...

I have no idea how you guys are qualifying archivist for war weaver. How?

This question is very dear to my heart, as I am about to play in a campaign and I want to be a party buffing archivist.
This game will probably not reach over level 12 btw.

In the war weaver guide here, read the Joker :)  Favored Soul using Dragonblood Pool (and getting spontaneous access as an archivist is easy enough)
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2010, 02:24:35 PM »
I'm actually working on one of those, but more focused... Is Spellguard of Silverymoon worth the trouble?

I'm working on a Mulan Human [For Southern Magician]
Archivist 8 / Sacred Exorcist 2 / War Weaver 5 / Legacy Champion 5 (Not Necessarily in that order)

However, if i'm to get Spellguard, it would end something like this:
Archivist 5 / Sacred Exorcist 1 / Spellguard of Silverymoon 4 / War Weaver 5 / Legacy Champion 5 (Not Necessarily in that order)

But some campaign setting problems arise... Mulans are really far from Silverymoon, and thus the DM may put veto, if i'm to use Alternate Spell Source, i would need to be able to cast Arcane Spells... Magical Training is from Halruaa, troublesome too.