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Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« on: August 20, 2010, 05:09:09 PM »
So, the name of the game is combining something akin to the Prez with a Totemist, with a Dragon feel.  As in "Rawr! -claws to pieces or breathes them to death or spines to death-"  Any initial advice?  Think of this as Favored Soul Godzilla, only as a dragon-themed psionic totemist.
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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2010, 05:15:50 PM »
Shadowpouncing works well with Psionic/Incarnum base.
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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2010, 05:47:11 PM »
Shouldn't just about all of your posts be in the other forum? The broken game forum?

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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2010, 05:53:07 PM »
Shouldn't just about all of your posts be in the other forum? The broken game forum?

Sinfire Titan would be most upset with implying one of his favorite pets (anything Totemist) is utterly borked :P  And to be fair, I do have "Resident Black Hatter" in my sig as a warning ;)  Posts by Kell = automatic reasonably high chance of TO/High end CO/PO.
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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2010, 07:19:48 PM »
Well, just abuse expansion with all your natural attacks.  Easy enough.

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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2010, 07:29:00 PM »
if you can get your dm to let you use share soulmelds with your psicrystal it's fairly useful, when you start using metamorphosis so that both of you are of decent sizes to use natural weapons amusingly.

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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2010, 07:45:50 PM »
Not to mention Reacharge Mechanics with Incarnum//Psionics. Plus, Soul Crystal.
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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2010, 08:51:39 PM »
I think something similar was done with Prime Minister of Smack, or politics of smack.
I found an old boards1 address numbered 519517 , that had at least some of it ... [archive] time.

The level 4 psi power in Moi, can fill all of the lesser inc slots.
Seems to me that Incarnum could get 2 Hearts and 2 Souls going,
or Totemist could get 2 Totems and 2 Hearts going.
Excepting DWKobold fun of course.
Limit seems to be the double up slot feat (fuzzy on the name at this point).

Doubling the invested essentia 20th level ability, could have some interesting outcomes.




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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2010, 03:43:09 AM »
Shouldn't just about all of your posts be in the other forum? The broken game forum?

Sinfire Titan would be most upset with implying one of his favorite pets (anything Totemist) is utterly borked :P  And to be fair, I do have "Resident Black Hatter" in my sig as a warning ;)  Posts by Kell = automatic reasonably high chance of TO/High end CO/PO.

In Kell's defense he usually has some really unique and interesting builds. You just got to strip away a bit of the cheese to make it playable :P

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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2010, 05:39:11 AM »
I had a shaper 6/constructor 10/totemist 2/soul manifester 10 build (going into epic) that was quite powerful and flavorful. He was a victim of the illithids' experiments, and he made awesome use of the powers in the back of MoI along with Overchannel, a hands-bound Metapsionic Rod of Extend Power, an orange ioun stone, and slot-changed Arcanists' Gloves (from MIC). He could get ludicrous bonuses to his manifester level, which allowed him to bind his soulmelds much earlier than normal, and he could make level 8 constructs around level 10.

He made awesome use of moving while ethereal (meaning he was auto-silent, invisible, and could pass through anything not made of force), and multiple miss-chances, and could solo entire encounters without actually going more than a little nova.

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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2010, 06:03:41 AM »
If you wanted claws and all that jazz, maybe, ardent would be decent to get the higher lvl powers via practiced manifester (since power picks for ardent = based on ML).

This way you can dip up to 4 in non psionic classes and still be a full manifester.

Add in possibly Illumian for more leeway in the build.

Also, ardent allows you to basically custom mantles via the mindseye web enhancement, so adding onto the natural mantle with more claw powers, etc, would be in theme.

Finally, psychic incarnum, use it, love it, abuse it?

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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2010, 02:00:31 PM »
Challenge: Use Skarn and their spines to do it. Come on Kell, you know you can.
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They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2010, 02:07:46 PM »
Challenge: Use Skarn and their spines to do it. Come on Kell, you know you can.

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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2010, 02:12:50 PM »
Challenge: Use Skarn and their spines to do it. Come on Kell, you know you can.

Bloodstorm Elbow Smash from the top turnbuckle a football field away!  Huzzah!
Or, for the poor man, Bloodwind.

Actually, a Skarn duskblade looks pretty comical with that mental image, now.

Edit: Proof I've been playing SC2 lately: Use Skarn with Bloodstorm blade to become a hydralisk...
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 03:45:03 PM »
The real irony of all this : Both an SCM and an StP/Mantled Erudite can do ALL of this :/
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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2011, 08:49:31 AM »
Ardent 5/Totemist 1/Soul Manifester 6/Incarnate Champion 4/Soul Manifester 4. Drop a feat in there on Practiced Manifester and an extra soulmeld.

You know shape soulmelds as an 11th level Totemist, manifest powers as a 19th level Ardent, and can, through the magic of Temporal Reiteration, have 3+Charisma Modifier added to any receptacle.

Make a point to learn that high level power that fills all essentia receptacles to capacity, and somehow getting Unfettered Heroism up means that ALL your powers will be manifested at a ML of 22+Cha modifier.

OK, so if you go for 30 Wis and Cha...

So, ultimately, with the right power choices, you also have all chakras, so...
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On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2011, 02:09:17 PM »
Temporal Reiteration to get Cha*3 to receptacles how? What am I missing that is obvious?
[Spoiler]
A gygaxian dungeon is like the world's most messed up game show.

Behind door number one: INSTANT DEATH!
Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
Best metaphor I have seen in a long time.  I give you much fu.
Three Errata for the Mage-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Barbarian-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Monks doomed to die,
One for the Wizard on his dark throne
In the Land of Charop where the Shadows lie.
[/spoiler]

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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2011, 03:07:34 PM »
Cha+1, actually. I messed up my math.

Check the 4th level feature of the Incandescent Champion, and smile evilly.
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Kell's Next Forray : Psionics and Incarnum!
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2011, 05:42:16 PM »
Psionic Open Chakra with some ML-bumps can net you some really high level chakra binds really early.

And note that the only limit on the number of chakras you can bind is your incarnum class level, which POC bypasses. Granted, you can't bind more soulmelds than you can shape, but there's nothing saying you can't bind magic items. Find some really nice ones (like the headband of Int and amulet of Con), toss them all on one item slot, then bind it for a bunch of nice day-long buffs with only 7pp used.
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Which book is Lycanthromancer in?
Lyca ... is in the book. Yes he is.
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shit.. concerning psionics optimization, lycan IS the book
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