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Where is that spell?
« on: August 06, 2010, 04:39:54 PM »
I remember seeing a spell somewhere that created a contingency for you... I think it was 8th level, and you were limited to one such contingency.
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Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2010, 05:11:06 PM »

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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2010, 05:37:43 PM »
Spell phylactery?  Or is it the spell from BoVD that gives you a free raise dead and heal?
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2010, 05:51:27 PM »
It's in the PH pg 213.
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2010, 06:00:13 PM »
Craft Contingency feat? Its not a spell but lets you use another contingency............
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2010, 06:00:40 PM »
Elminsters Evasion, nowdays known as Instant Refuge?

INSTANT REFUGE
Evocation
Level: Sorcerer/wizard 9
Components: V, S, M, XP
Casting Time: 10 minutes
Range: Personal
Target: You
Duration: Until discharged
You set invisible arcane triggers within your
mind and body, allowing you to escape great
peril in an instant.
This powerful variant of the contingency
spell automatically transfers you and
everything you carry or touch (except
for other creatures or objects that weigh
more than 50 pounds) to a locale you
name.
When casting instant refuge, you must
specify the locale and detail up to six
specific conditions that trigger the spell.
When any of these situations occurs,
you are whisked away to the location.
The location can be any place you have
visited, even on another plane.
Material Component: A concoction
made from demon skin and rare herbs
worth 250 gp.
XP Cost: 100 XP.
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2010, 06:07:36 PM »
Heh, silly me. I was looking in Complete Arcane/Mage, for some reason. :rollseyes

But here's what I was going to use it for:

Cast Contingency

Make the trigger "Whenever either A or B happens. A being that I say Hocus Pocus, and B being that this contingency ends through my not using it, i.e. if I don't trigger the contingency within 1 day/level."

The spell Contingencied?

Sanctum Greater Arcane Fusion

The spells fusioned?

Extended Contingency (Greater Arcane Fusion), and some random up to 5th level spell (probably could change it each time this triggers...)

You know what that Greater Arcane Fusion should give you? See above under "The spells fusioned"

Congrats, you now have a 5th level spell that triggers whenever the hell you want. My favorite would be Arcane Fusion (whatever 2 Personal buffs that tickle your fancy, As long as 1 is 1st level and the other is up to 4th level, 5th if Sanctum Spell is allowed to be applied down here.)

Or, heck, you could put every 1st/2nd level buff in the game on you by saying Hocus Pocus.

Saying something is a free action.

Plus, Metamagic doesn't increase spell level...

Hello all of those 1st/2nd level buffs being persistent.  :D

And if you like complications, you could make the second triggered Contingency be Raise Dead... And then just make the chain be complicated.

Eschew Materials will be great for the person casting this on you; i.e. you...

The real point of this is making a resetting contingency with 2 Spells and 2 Feats.

Edit: I left out a key Ingredient. The Sorcerer giving you the Contingency (or you have to be the Sorc, whatever), hast to have Reserves of Strength so that you can have a Sanctum Greater Arcane Fusion Contingencied (Normal limit is Cl/3, max 6th, but Reserves of Strength bumps that up to 7th. You would only need it for when you begin to cast the spell, anyway.)

Also, by properly setting up the contingencies, you can have every buff 5th level and down put on you... when you say Hocus Pocus.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2010, 06:26:08 PM by Amechra »
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2010, 07:52:38 PM »
Saying something is a free action... unless it's a command word.
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2010, 08:03:02 PM »
if the sanctum spell - arcane fusion thing is allowed, why not just nuke everything with unlimited damage in 1 round? :)

no need to worry about buffs then

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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2010, 08:15:17 PM »
The only reason I said buffs is that the spell states that personal spells only are Contingifiable through it.

But if I can get the right Metamagic, I could cast every spell 5th level and lower by saying Hocus Pocus.

This would be hilarious to watch.  :lmao
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2010, 08:34:43 PM »
Wouldn't work.  Contingency is 10 minutes to cast, Greater Arcane Focus requires Standard action or less.  Unless I'm missing something, which I'll assume. :P
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2010, 08:48:02 PM »
Dang it, I knew there was some way this isn't rules legal!

Unless... How long/what level are Allspell and Greater Allspell?
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2010, 08:51:23 PM »
Dang it, I knew there was some way this isn't rules legal!

Unless... How long/what level are Allspell and Greater Allspell?
I believe you mean Anyspell. If memory serves, that wouldn't work either, since the spell itself only lets you prepare a different spell, you need a separate action to cast it.
Try Limited Wish, if you can fit it in the GAF.
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2010, 08:53:03 PM »
Dang it, I knew there was some way this isn't rules legal!

Unless... How long/what level are Allspell and Greater Allspell?
Anyspell is 3rd level.  Greater Anyspell is 6th level.  Both take 15 minutes to cast (it includes the preparation of the new spell).

Edit: I was going to suggest trying Rary's Mnemonic Enhancer, but that also has a casting time of 10 minutes.
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2010, 09:20:17 PM »
Dang it, I knew there was some way this isn't rules legal!

Unless... How long/what level are Allspell and Greater Allspell?
I believe you mean Anyspell. If memory serves, that wouldn't work either, since the spell itself only lets you prepare a different spell, you need a separate action to cast it.
Try Limited Wish, if you can fit it in the GAF.
Aye, Limited Wish should work.
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Re: Where is that spell?
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 09:51:09 PM »
Thanks.

And it still isn't too complicated... relatively.
[spoiler]Fighter: "I can kill a guy in one turn."
Cleric: "I can kill a guy in half a turn."
Wizard: "I can kill a guy before my turn."
Bard: "I can get three idiots to kill guys for me."

On a strange note, would anyone be put out if we had a post about people or events we can spare a thought for, or if its within their creed, a prayer for? Just a random thought, but ... hells I wouldn't have known about either Archangels daughter or Saeomons niece if I didn't happen to be on these threads.
Sounds fine to me.
probably over on "Off-topic".
might want to put a little disclaimer in the first post.

This is the Min/Max board. We should be able to figure out a way to optimize the POWER OF PRAYER(TM) that doesn't involve "Pazuzu, Pazuzu, Pazuzu".
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