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What is your favorite high ECL race?
« on: July 27, 2010, 01:58:39 PM »
I got to thinking a little while back about high ECL races. They are not optimal but there is an implicit cool factor in being otherworldly awesome, so I wanted to ask;

What is your favorite high ECL (4+) race from a non optimised standpoint*? Maybe we can come up with some optimised builds for cool but otherwise poor races.

Mine is Succubus, not mechanically all that strong but I like the idea of manipulation and being an outsider is always cool.


*Rather than pick the most powerful or easiest to optimise, just pick on cool factor.

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2010, 02:03:04 PM »
The aloon(?) mind flayer, I'm AFB but I think that's what it's called. powers of the mind in something the size of a giant :D
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2010, 02:05:32 PM »
The aloon(?) mind flayer, I'm AFB but I think that's what it's called. powers of the mind in something the size of a giant :D
An alhoon is a mind flayer lich. Are you thinking of those things you get when tadpoles aren't implanted? Or the mindstealer dragon?
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2010, 02:07:45 PM »
hmmmm  .....  :flirt .... how about Pixie ,... opps you mean above +4 LA

will reconsider ... maybe Phrenic Pixie  :smirk

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2010, 02:10:35 PM »
The aloon(?) mind flayer, I'm AFB but I think that's what it's called. powers of the mind in something the size of a giant :D
An alhoon is a mind flayer lich. Are you thinking of those things you get when tadpoles aren't implanted? Or the mindstealer dragon?
There's also the Ulitharid, which is basically a Mind Flayer, except more, and is Large, so the size of a small giant, I guess.
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2010, 02:11:18 PM »
Sharn! :D

In all seriousness probably some sort of Dragon (steel is always good).
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2010, 02:11:56 PM »
It's all about vision and making reality conform to your vision. By dropping a fucking house on it.

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2010, 02:24:15 PM »
Gloura are lots of fun ... but easy to optimize .... especially Evil ones

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2010, 02:56:29 PM »
Awakened Animated Object.  Yes, it's the brave little toaster.  Or cauldron.  Or...anything.  =P
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2010, 02:57:14 PM »
Awakened Animated Object.  Yes, it's the brave little toaster.  Or cauldron.  Or...anything.  =P

Aren't animated objects specifically noted as being unable to be awakened?

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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2010, 03:18:26 PM »
I like the rakshasa, but I've never actually played one.  I just like DMing them, and if optimization weren't an issue, it'd be fun to play one.

It also wouldn't be so horrible to play if the DM ruled your HD stack with sorcerer levels for casting.

Edit: It looks like the levels already do stack.  Still LA +7 is a bitter pill to swallow.
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2010, 03:28:20 PM »
It also wouldn't be so horrible to play if the DM ruled your HD stack with sorcerer levels for casting.
Considering that is explicitly spelled out in the description of Rakshasas...

Personally, I like varying ECL races.  Centaurs are some of my favorites, but I also like lycanthropes.  I do remember that one of my favorite characters was a Vivacious warlock.  Unlimited ammunition, both in invocations and healing and Death By Ice Cream.
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2010, 03:32:46 PM »
Woops I ment the Ulitharid....
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2010, 03:43:45 PM »
Feral half-golem incarnate construct anthropomorphic baleen whale mineral warrior. Let's just call it FHGICABWMW for short.
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2010, 04:02:29 PM »
I'm a big fan of Astral Stalkers (MMIII), though I've never gotten to play one.  Started to build one a few times, but the campaign(s) never get off the ground.

I second the Rakshasa as well.  A Rakshasa Swiftblade would just be awesome. ;)
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2010, 04:05:00 PM »
Feral half-golem incarnate construct anthropomorphic baleen whale mineral warrior. Let's just call it FHGICABWMW for short.

Doesn't qualify for this thread, the LA it too low ;)
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2010, 04:30:05 PM »
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2010, 04:43:11 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2010, 04:45:34 PM »
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Behind door number 2: A magic crown!
Behind door number 3: 4d6 giant bees, and THREE HUNDRED POUNDS OF HONEY!
They don't/haven't, was the point. 3.5 is as dead as people not liking nice tits.

Sometimes, their tits (3.5) get enhancements (houserules), but that doesn't mean people don't like nice tits.

Though sometimes, the surgeon (DM) botches them pretty bad...
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Re: What is your favorite high ECL race?
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2010, 04:48:58 PM »
Black Ethergaunt, i really like it.